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Old 05-07-2009, 11:14 PM   #81
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Nice pic, Gas.

Every number I've quoted in this thread is from the original article. "the kool-aid" is not my opinion, it's what ARB says is reality. You're welcome to believe Zoomie's interpretation. I just happen to believe the ARB since they are the experts.
Honestly I did little attention to this... My opinion is whatever... my chop had no CC and no mufflers on 117CI
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:15 AM   #82
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Nice pic, Gas.

Every number I've quoted in this thread is from the original article. "the kool-aid" is not my opinion, it's what ARB says is reality. You're welcome to believe Zoomie's interpretation. I just happen to believe the ARB since they are the experts.
I can't believe you can't read the information and come to your own conclusions.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:38 AM   #83
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Preach = holier-than-thou, k? Someone who preaches is generally considered to be holier-than-thou.
Oh well maybe that would've been clearer if anyone besides YOU was preaching in this thread.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:39 AM   #84
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There. Thread over.


Thanks... I think I just drank green tea up my nostrils...
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:30 PM   #85
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Thanks... I think I just drank green tea up my nostrils...
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:53 PM   #86
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Yeah, that certainly can be a problem. I'd like to see the OEMs and aftermarket guys work on exhausts that can be a little louder than stock while keeping all the smog gear on there. i.e. the header or midpipe contains the CC while the endcan can be changed out. Then everyone wins.
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But, people would bitch because the exhausts would cost more.

By the way, my bike is way old (2001), but because it was a CA bike it has catylitic converters, O2 sensor, PAIR valves, and charcoal cannister.

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Old 05-09-2009, 11:08 PM   #87
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Did you notice on their report that lawn and garden equipment actually had a higher output of CO than on-road motorcycles? So, those should have converters too...
Works for me...........Yet, people are gonna complain that now those mowers cost $200 more.......To that I say whoopdie-do, if you want to be a yuppie and keep your yard nice like the Joneses, pay the price.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:13 PM   #88
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most if not all slip-ons retain the cat, yet are still illegal. just a side note.
My R6 and my Aprilia RSV had their cats inside the muffler, so changing to a slipon would have removed the cat.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:18 PM   #89
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:25 PM   #90
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Nope.

That's the picture. That's the TERRIFYING data... motorcycles are going to ruin the air quality for everyone around them.

BUT IT'S 10x THE CARS!!!!

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE
Here's my take on this. You say motorcycles account for a trivial percentage of total pollution, and I agree. But we still prosecute shoplifters even though what they steal represents a trival percentage of all stolen goods, right?
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