Buell is done, finished, gone [Archive] - Page 2

FT BSTRD

10-21-2009, 02:23 AM

Um I only read the first page but 2 out of 3 said they'd take the Ducati and the one guy who took the Buell did so because it was cheap...:lol:

Believe it or not, I appreciate the article, too bad there weren't more circulated last year...:idk:

Just was addressing your point about comparisons. I thought it was favorable.

One guy didn't like the Buell because he said it looked "cheap". The other guy said he'd take the Ducati because, "well, it's a Ducati".

I guess it's a little too little too late.

All in all, though, both the 1125R and 1125CR stacked up favorably against the competition.

FT BSTRD

10-21-2009, 02:24 AM

Maybe the gold frame is questionable, but the rest of it is spot on IMO. 2-3 years ago it was even better with a checkered flag design on the tank.

To me it looks like a box of legos from 6 different kits blew up and this is what fused together at ground zero.

There's even a head from a Bionicle on the front.

z06boy

10-21-2009, 10:58 AM

God Dammit! I have ridden one and guess what? The sky didn't part, the fucking angels didn't sing, and I didn't leave a huge dent in the tank from a boner!!! All I wanted was to get off that uncomfortable, rattling, shaking, slow, non-braking motherfucker!!! If they are so great, why don't you own one? Oh and please don't give me that poor shit because you can probably trade even up for your bike right now.:lol:

It's amazing... forget the many,many recalls... forget the many failures, forget the numbers, forget the absolutely dismal race results, forget all of the comparisons- shit when was the last time Buell allowed one of his babies to be compared against a similarly designed bike like the Tuono, Monster, SV1000, FZ1, etc? When has his precious creation ever compared favorably against a similarly configured and sized bike?:idk: What is up with all of the excuses? His original stated goal was to take on the other manufacturers on EQUAL terms, when did that happen? It didn't and he failed to complete his mission statement. Period. Were they great bikes? Sure considering what they were and where they came from, they were great bikes but they definitely weren't "world beaters" in any sense of the words. Oh and considering that he had the backing of one of the largest motorcycle companies in the world maybe we should quit treating him like this "small visionary that took on the big boys alone".

So you're thinking about getting one ? :bigrofl:

defector

10-21-2009, 11:05 AM

Went to check them out yesterday, and the salesman said to "make an offer, you might be surprised"...

SteveP

10-21-2009, 11:20 AM

I like the scoops.

Then again, I think the Tuono looks like complete shit:

http://www.motodisiac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/aprilia-tuono-1000r.jpg

Who the fuck designed that thing, Stevie Wonder?

I totally agree. I don't know WTF the designers were thinking. I love my first gen Tuono though.

SteveP

10-21-2009, 11:22 AM

shit when was the last time Buell allowed one of his babies to be compared against a similarly designed bike like the Tuono, Monster, SV1000, FZ1, etc?

I gotta call BS on this statement. The Tuono is nowhere near comparable to the SV1000, Monster, or FZ1.

Homeslice

10-21-2009, 11:28 AM

I totally agree. I don't know WTF the designers were thinking. I love my first gen Tuono though.

Not sure what was so different about the 1st gen Tuono, other than having different shaped lights.....big deal. It still had a ton of different colors, just like that one.

Sean

10-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Psssst....

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/4511/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Streetfighter-Comparo-III-Conclusion.aspx

Gotta admit, that article is impressive. That 1125R is an ugly sumbitch, but the CR actually looks normal and I could see considering it as a DD. Wonder how it would compare to last season's winner, the Speed Triple, or the new Monster.

Trip

10-21-2009, 11:35 AM

I gotta call BS on this statement. The Tuono is nowhere near comparable to the SV1000, Monster, or FZ1.

Why not? I would put it in the same market as the SV and definitely the Monster. Not so much the FZ1 though.

pdog

10-21-2009, 11:37 AM

There's always people who are going to be brand fanatics. They're willing to overlook pervasive flaws in order to stick with their belief that the brand they've invested in is the best. They're usually the ones with a company sticker on the back of their car/truck. Doesn't matter if it's "Ford", "Ducati" or "Buell", it's all the same mindset.

God Dammit! I have ridden one and guess what? The sky didn't part, the fucking angels didn't sing, and I didn't leave a huge dent in the tank from a boner!!! All I wanted was to get off that uncomfortable, rattling, shaking, slow, non-braking motherfucker!!! If they are so great, why don't you own one? Oh and please don't give me that poor shit because you can probably trade even up for your bike right now.:lol:

Trip

10-21-2009, 11:55 AM

Rider

10-21-2009, 12:04 PM

Fanboys

Says the BMW rider.... :lol

dReWpY

10-21-2009, 12:06 PM

i was about to call him out for that, he rides the biggest fanboy bike... other then ducatistas, gsxr squids, honda fanboys.... ya get the idea,we all think our shit doesnt stink

Trip

10-21-2009, 12:15 PM

Says the BMW rider.... :lol

i was about to call him out for that, he rides the biggest fanboy bike... other then ducatistas, gsxr squids, honda fanboys.... ya get the idea,we all think our shit doesnt stink

I know, Ewan and Charlie really put this bike on the map. I don't think it's the biggest fanboy bike by any means. It's not even close. Gixxers beat it easy, but the king of fanboy bikes stands alone without question and no one can deny it: Harley. If you question that, you are clueless.

As far as my bike, I fully understand I could have a fuel pump failure or a final drive failure (major issues with this bike.) I know it's far from perfect and will fully admit it. I don't think it's a bike for everyone and wouldn't recommend it unless I knew it was something you were looking for.

tommymac

10-21-2009, 12:16 PM

i was about to call him out for that, he rides the biggest fanboy bike... other then ducatistas, gsxr squids, honda fanboys.... ya get the idea,we all think our shit doesnt stink

I ride an aprilia futura, I know my shit stinks :lol:

Tom

Trip

10-21-2009, 12:18 PM

I ride an aprilia futura, I know my shit stinks :lol:

Tom

There is a difference between fanboys and elitists, these commoners don't understand that. You mean you didn't get your dose of poopnostink. I thought they gave that out with Aprilias too. I got a coconut flavored bottle.

tommymac

10-21-2009, 12:23 PM

There is a difference between fanboys and elitists, these commoners don't understand that. You mean you didn't get your dose of poopnostink. I thought they gave that out with Aprilias too. I got a coconut flavored bottle.

Got a little of the elitist ribbing but a lotof people dont even know what an aprilia is so I guess that keeps me off the hook.

one guy on a harley tried to be bad ass and says hey nice rice rocket, I say hey dickhead its italian. The guys riding with him all started laughing at him :lol:

Tom

Dave

10-21-2009, 12:26 PM

Psssst....

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/4511/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Streetfighter-Comparo-III-Conclusion.aspx

consider the source...

Dave

10-21-2009, 12:30 PM

Got a little of the elitist ribbing but a lotof people dont even know what an aprilia is so I guess that keeps me off the hook.

one guy on a harley tried to be bad ass and says hey nice rice rocket, I say hey dickhead its italian. The guys riding with him all started laughing at him :lol:

Tom

classic

Homeslice

10-21-2009, 12:33 PM

Aprilias are the best bikes, because not only are they the best-looking, but people don't thumb their noses at them like they do with Ducatis.

tommymac

10-21-2009, 12:38 PM

Aprilias are the best bikes, because not only are they the best-looking, but people don't thumb their noses at them like they do with Ducatis.

They dont seem to have that same mystique as ducatis do for some reason, so I guess it makes them a little less snobbish so to speak.

Tom

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 01:18 PM

So you're thinking about getting one ? :bigrofl:

Yea one of the NEW ones for a cruising around bike, I definitely don't see it as a replacement for my GSXR.

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 01:27 PM

I gotta call BS on this statement. The Tuono is nowhere near comparable to the SV1000, Monster, or FZ1.

Huh? Dude, I'm just pulling examples of naked/semi-naked bikes. I'm definitely not trying to start a new argument about some other basically boutique bike. Who cares?:idk: Compare the Buell to any bike you want with a 1125+ motor and draw your own conclusions. I picked all bikes with less cc's off the top of my head in the middle of the night. The comparison FB posted was with the Tuono, 1125CR and the Ducati Streetfighter. Personally, I honestly believe that a SV1000 would take the Buell in a straight up contest with similar mods but that's just me being a Suzuki fan boy!

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 01:28 PM

consider the source...

I didn't go there but I was like," Who are these guys and why should I care what they think?":lol:

z06boy

10-21-2009, 01:34 PM

Yea one of the NEW ones for a cruising around bike, I definitely don't see it as a replacement for my GSXR.

I was just kidding after reading your passionate post. :lol:

At the current prices I admit...I'd buy one if I was in the market for a bike.

Rider

10-21-2009, 01:38 PM

I was just kidding after reading your passionate post. :lol:

At the current prices I admit...I'd buy one if I was in the market for a bike.

Hell yeah. I'd ride a Buell for the price they are going for now. They can't be THAT bad. ANYTHING with 2 wheels is fun.

derf

10-21-2009, 04:33 PM

Hell yeah. I'd ride a Buell for the price they are going for now. They can't be THAT bad. ANYTHING with 2 wheels is fun.

5k for a new bike.... yeh I'd take it I'm gonna offer the local dealership my bike as a trade for an 1125, we shall see what they say, the retail value is 4250, trade in is 3000, hell I would pay up to 1k and a trade in for a new 1125r

CasterTroy

10-21-2009, 04:46 PM

5k for a new bike.... yeh I'd take it I'm gonna offer the local dealership my bike as a trade for an 1125, we shall see what they say, the retail value is 4250, trade in is 3000, hell I would pay up to 1k and a trade in for a new 1125r

Unless they're VASTLY different from all the dealers arounf here, they won't take a non-harley trade.

Also, I found out HD is paying dealer $5000 for ever Buell sold

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3770/buellcr.jpg

Gas Man

10-21-2009, 04:46 PM

Your wife does and she is more than willing to give us updates on you. :nee:

Yep... have fun with that.

I know, Ewan and Charlie really put this bike on the map. I don't think it's the biggest fanboy bike by any means. It's not even close. Gixxers beat it easy, but the king of fanboy bikes stands alone without question and no one can deny it: Harley. If you question that, you are clueless.

As far as my bike, I fully understand I could have a fuel pump failure or a final drive failure (major issues with this bike.) I know it's far from perfect and will fully admit it. I don't think it's a bike for everyone and wouldn't recommend it unless I knew it was something you were looking for.

Yes Ewan and Charlie did...big time.

I will agree on the HD thing... and for good reason. HD put serious time and money into that fact. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has been able to brand themselves better. Really, whether you like HD or not, you must say hats off to them for that.

5k for a new bike.... yeh I'd take it I'm gonna offer the local dealership my bike as a trade for an 1125, we shall see what they say, the retail value is 4250, trade in is 3000, hell I would pay up to 1k and a trade in for a new 1125r

DO IT!:dribble:

tommymac

10-21-2009, 04:49 PM

they would prolly laugh at me if I tried to trade in my futura :lol:

But hey at least its not jappanese LOL

Tom

derf

10-21-2009, 04:52 PM

Unless they're VASTLY different from all the dealers arounf here, they won't take a non-harley trade.

http://www.barbshd.com/default.asp

Nope, this place likes me. They also give a $500 mil discount on new or used bikes, and they deal in used imports. Right now they have on their lot an F41, Fz6, 919, and a bunch of metric cruisers.

http://www.barbshd.com/default.asp

CasterTroy

10-21-2009, 04:56 PM

WOW that IS vastly different from ANY of them down here!

Trip

10-21-2009, 07:03 PM

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has been able to brand themselves better. Really, whether you like HD or not, you must say hats off to them for that.

One problem, I don't believe it was HD that did it. It's the public that did it. It's the biker gangs and the publics vision of them. The whole outlaw perception. HD played off that. Recent HD ads, I would say have for the most part been targeting lame middle age people. The bike sold itself more than HD sold it.

Plus I don't believe a fanboy perception is a good image. It's means no matter if the product is great or the worst thing ever, you are a stupid sheep and will buy it anyway.

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 07:20 PM

Homeslice

10-21-2009, 07:37 PM

5k for a new bike.... yeh I'd take it I'm gonna offer the local dealership my bike as a trade for an 1125, we shall see what they say, the retail value is 4250, trade in is 3000, hell I would pay up to 1k and a trade in for a new 1125r

your 900 has a retail of 4250??

you can't be serious...

I bought my 929 for 4400, with Ohlins, and that was over a year ago

dReWpY

10-21-2009, 07:41 PM

900 is a collectors bike imho

Homeslice

10-21-2009, 07:42 PM

900 is a collectors bike imho

the 93-95 maybe

derf

10-21-2009, 07:45 PM

The Jap bikes are not prices comparitevly. Excluding the mobile homes known as gold wings, A zx14 is 12k, busa 13k, honda fury & cbr1000 12k, R1 is 13k. vs the top of the line harleys are 16k and up, and until the last year or 2 good luck paying MSRP.

Homeslice

10-21-2009, 07:51 PM

eh, well there are a few dealers in Cali selling the 1000rr for only $9K flat

Dave

10-21-2009, 07:55 PM

hell desimone ducati has 1098S for 5k off sticker. that was two weeks ago might be more now.

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 08:06 PM

hell desimone ducati has 1098S for 5k off sticker. that was two weeks ago might be more now.

Yep a bud I ride with got a 1098 for just over $11,000 OTD!!!:drool:

Dave

10-21-2009, 08:17 PM

Yep a bud I ride with got a 1098 for just over $11,000 OTD!!!:drool:

crazyiness. too bad they dont come setup better, id be tempted come tax time

Amber Lamps

10-21-2009, 08:27 PM

crazyiness. too bad they dont come setup better, id be tempted come tax time

It's a strange world my friend!:lol: I never seem to have big money when these opportunities come along!!!:panic:

Dave

10-21-2009, 08:39 PM

It's a strange world my friend!:lol: I never seem to have big money when these opportunities come along!!!:panic:

aint it funny how that works? cant even give them the nsx and ask for the bike back plus 10k cash :lol: actually if i could do that id be driving to new braunfels for a black rsv4r :boobs:

Adeptus_Minor

10-21-2009, 08:51 PM

It's a strange world my friend!:lol: I never seem to have big money when these opportunities come along!!!:panic:

I know that feeling.
I missed a chance at a greatly discounted Ducati (749 Dark, I believe it was?) a few years ago because I didn't have cash on hand when the dealership was doing a closeout deal on them.
Hopefully I won't miss another opportunity like that.

Gas Man

10-22-2009, 12:43 AM

One problem, I don't believe it was HD that did it. It's the public that did it. It's the biker gangs and the publics vision of them. The whole outlaw perception. HD played off that. Recent HD ads, I would say have for the most part been targeting lame middle age people. The bike sold itself more than HD sold it.

Plus I don't believe a fanboy perception is a good image. It's means no matter if the product is great or the worst thing ever, you are a stupid sheep and will buy it anyway.

I can agree with that somewhat. But I think there is more to it than that. Look at the appearal line.

I agree that fanboy is not a good image. But I would reserve that for the HD appereal wearing peeps that don't own one. I go to these free bbqs at my HD dealer. I hate having to stand there behind some fat POS cracker trash that doesn't own a HD and never will. I told the dealership that if you own a HD you should get better privilages.

Hey I've been guilty of drinking HD kool-aid myself! I literally waited months for the bike and it broke down within a couple hundred miles and I accepted that as just part of the deal...:idk: I'm not sure if it was genius marketing by Harley or not but it has always amazed me that people were willing to pay top dollar, almost double at times, for a bike that you KNEW was going to break down, require 3 or 4 times the maintenance, have less performance in every category, almost REQUIRE aftermarket parts, and to top it off-you would have to wait for up to 2 years to get it!!! I know that things have changed but that was the deal for about a decade!!!

BTW someone mentioned the fact that Jap bikes cost almost the same as HD... The Japanese MFGrs have two choices either pay the huge tariffs or build their bikes using over-priced American labor. Either way, it was going to impact the price of a bike. If they could build their bikes overseas and ship them here without tariff, we'd be able to buy GSXR1000s for $8,000!

Well i will tell you something <knock on wood>. I am on my way to 7k on my ultra and have only had one problem with the throttle sensor. But it never left me stranded. Just threw a check engine code and put it into restricted throttle. And I don't think they are anything like what you expierenced.

I can tell you first hand... there is a big difference between 2002 and hell even 2005 and the newer bikes. They have made huge changes. My 2009 FLH is a great example.

And you touched on a few facts to pricing for sure.

Amber Lamps

10-22-2009, 01:21 AM

I can agree with that somewhat. But I think there is more to it than that. Look at the appearal line.

I agree that fanboy is not a good image. But I would reserve that for the HD appereal wearing peeps that don't own one. I go to these free bbqs at my HD dealer. I hate having to stand there behind some fat POS cracker trash that doesn't own a HD and never will. I told the dealership that if you own a HD you should get better privilages.

Well i will tell you something <knock on wood>. I am on my way to 7k on my ultra and have only had one problem with the throttle sensor. But it never left me stranded. Just threw a check engine code and put it into restricted throttle. And I don't think they are anything like what you expierenced.

I can tell you first hand... there is a big difference between 2002 and hell even 2005 and the newer bikes. They have made huge changes. My 2009 FLH is a great example.

And you touched on a few facts to pricing for sure.

Shit son, I'm talking about the 80s and 90s here!!! I know that the quality is leaps and bounds better at HD now!

Dave

10-22-2009, 02:36 AM

Shit son, I'm talking about the 80s and 90s here!!! I know that the quality is leaps and bounds better at HD now!

i should get one and leave it under a tarp in the backyard for 18 years. wonder how much harder it would be to get running again than my 450 :lol:

FT BSTRD

10-22-2009, 10:40 AM

Before I actually worked a sales floor at an HD dealer, I had a pretty negative outlook on Harleys. They were unreliable. They leaked oil. You had to carry a tool box with you just to keep them running. The usual.

The latest offerings by HD are VERY high quality good running bikes. I was surprised how well put together and dependable they are.

They are on par with anything out there as far as quality.

I can even justify the price to a degree. There is NOTHING that is plastic on any Harley. Everything is either painted metal or cast. They weigh 900+ pounds for a reason.

If you are paying by the pound, the price is in line with their metric competitors.

Gas Man

10-22-2009, 11:20 AM

Shit son, I'm talking about the 80s and 90s here!!! I know that the quality is leaps and bounds better at HD now!

Yeah damn... in the 80s there may have even been a AMF HD in the mix!! YIKES!

Before I actually worked a sales floor at an HD dealer, I had a pretty negative outlook on Harleys. They were unreliable. They leaked oil. You had to carry a tool box with you just to keep them running. The usual.

The latest offerings by HD are VERY high quality good running bikes. I was surprised how well put together and dependable they are.

They are on par with anything out there as far as quality.

I can even justify the price to a degree. There is NOTHING that is plastic on any Harley. Everything is either painted metal or cast. They weigh 900+ pounds for a reason.

If you are paying by the pound, the price is in line with their metric competitors.

That is funny. But not 100% true... my side covers under the seat (commonly known as the oil bag area) are plastic. Well I think plastic. Along with the fairings, and saddlebags. LOL!

But I have been saying it for the past several years. The new HDs are great machines, very metric turn key.

z06boy

10-22-2009, 11:39 AM

I'm going to look at Buells this weekend if any are left. My friend that totalled his R6 has yet to replace it...he's tight with $$ so these deals sound sweet to him.

He has considered a Buell before and is now glad he didn't jump on one in the last few months.

karl_1052

10-22-2009, 12:52 PM

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/chances-to-save-buell-motorcycles-emerge-ar80525.html

FT BSTRD

10-22-2009, 01:04 PM

That is funny. But not 100% true... my side covers under the seat (commonly known as the oil bag area) are plastic. Well I think plastic. Along with the fairings, and saddlebags. LOL!

But I have been saying it for the past several years. The new HDs are great machines, very metric turn key.

Yeah, I forgot about the "oil bag" covers. The oil bag inside, though, is metal.

Yeah, and the fairings and saddle bags aren't metal obviously. The rest, though, is.

FT BSTRD

10-22-2009, 01:09 PM

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/chances-to-save-buell-motorcycles-emerge-ar80525.html

That story has been going around. Nothing further has been reported.

There is a concerted effort going on to track down the suppliers of every component of what makes up a Buell, though. Part of the challenge, if HD is unwilling to help, is going to be in replicating the parts. It's much cheaper to get it going if the original supplier with the original specs is able just to gin out more parts. It's much harder to reverse engineer the parts and have them produced by a new supplyer.

Gas Man

10-22-2009, 10:25 PM

I spoke to my dealer today. $5500

$100 off if I refer you

I get $100 in store credit

Plus you get $500 store credit

Only $400 in sales tax.

Also they specialize in shipping bikes. they will ship it to your dealer in the original crate and it will be shipped by hd trucks so no worries.

http://www.bikerbobshd.com/

If you call in (Taylor store). Speak to Chrissy and tell her Chris sent ya. She told me they only have 3 1125's left. And like on Uly (different price)

Their funny youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/BikerBobsHD

how they ship the bikes
http://www.youtube.com/user/BikerBobsHD#p/u/20/CGlYveRkXZE

Anyway, let me know if I can help in any way PM me and I'll see what I can do.

I will be out of town next week, but other than that I will do what I can.

Gas Man

11-12-2009, 10:52 PM

The last Buell rolling off assembly line
http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/LATEST+NEWS/Photo-Last-Buell-Rolling-Off-Assembly-Line/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/641475?ref=25

http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/data/articlestandard/dealernews/462009/641475/LastBuell.gif

tached1000rr

11-12-2009, 10:53 PM

Gas Man

11-12-2009, 11:00 PM

That's sad
Very!

tached1000rr

11-12-2009, 11:01 PM

I can only imagine what is going through those workers minds in that pic, trying to talk my father in law into picking one up now

Rangerscott

11-12-2009, 11:38 PM

I wonder how much the last one is gonna sell for?

Mikey

11-13-2009, 12:44 AM

I wonder how much the last one is gonna sell for?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it isn't for sale because it's going into a personal collection or museum somewhere.

psychochild28

11-13-2009, 01:21 AM

I can only imagine what is going through those workers minds in that pic, trying to talk my father in law into picking one up now

Pretty sure you can see what that one guy is thinking...(white shirt)

So sad, hope they all find jobs soon.

derf

11-13-2009, 01:26 AM

That bike deserves to reside in Erik Buells garage

HokieDNA01

11-13-2009, 04:42 AM

FatBastard...I have a Customer that may be interested in a Buell... Shoot me your contact info and I'll pass it along if you have any left in stock.

Cutty72

11-13-2009, 05:15 AM

ok, so I just stumbled upon this thread now. Wow, being out of the loop sucks!!!!

Most things I'd say have already been said, but I have a couple.

We know that Buell needed HD's money to "spread the word" etc and for the dealership networks. I also feel that those same dealership networks are the major downfall of the Buell brand. I have never in my life walked into a HD/Buell dealership and had anyone pay me any attention after I mentioned that I was interested in Buell. I found that the sales, parts, and service staff were all very ill informed and uneducated about the brand in general, as well as specific models. I have even been pushed toward various HD models when asking about a Buell model. All this does not lead to good sales.
Further, very few dealers carried a selection of Buells EVER.
To walk in and see a 1125, a XB12R and a Ully was a miracle in itself. My dealership even said they would only order a Buell if someone was commited to it. The first year of the 1125, they only got in 5... 3 they sold to other dealerships. the 2 others, one I bought, and the other was the showroom model for awhile, but they didn't bring it out until I showed interest in it and wanted to see one before I bought.

FT BSTRD... you really work for a rarity in the HD world. I have heard many good things about your dealership, and I hope they continue.

I love my 1125, and I'm glad I got it when I did, retail price or no. It was over 10K of wonderful riding that I never would have gotten without it.
It is the anny edition as well... so it *may* at some day be a collector. But I tell you, it will not be a collector like some of these old muscle cars you see with low low original miles. I bought this bike to ride, Erik designed this bike for me to ride, so that's what I'll do.

dReWpY

11-13-2009, 05:25 AM

i am lucky to live so close to a dedicated dealer

Cutty72

11-13-2009, 06:14 AM

i am lucky to live so close to a dedicated dealer

so did you keep the RC, or trade it on the 1125?

tached1000rr

11-13-2009, 08:16 AM

That bike deserves to reside in Erik Buells garage

Agreed!

z06boy

11-13-2009, 09:06 AM

That's sad

Agreed

dReWpY

11-13-2009, 11:36 AM

i am lucky to live so close to a dedicated dealer

traded it in, it had 33k miles and was getting ready to be serviced in the future, with the deal buell offered i was silly not to take it, by the time i paid someone to check the valves and check out the clutch, prolly replace the some parts i would be almost buying the buell, and i would of still had an 9 year old bike with 33k miles

Cutty72

11-13-2009, 11:57 AM

traded it in, it had 33k miles and was getting ready to be serviced in the future, with the deal buell offered i was silly not to take it, by the time i paid someone to check the valves and check out the clutch, prolly replace the some parts i would be almost buying the buell, and i would of still had an 9 year old bike with 33k miles

True story...

I am wondering though, if the anny edition is going to be worth some $$ in the future...

Homeslice

11-13-2009, 01:21 PM

Is the XB9 only available in the SX version, or was there ever an R version?

marko138

11-13-2009, 01:47 PM

Is the XB9 only available in the SX version, or was there ever an R version?
Only as a SX at this point....well...as of 2009 anyway.

Tmall

11-13-2009, 02:25 PM

There was no xb9r after 03 or 04, I believe.

There were other 984cc bikes, just no firebolt.

Homeslice

11-13-2009, 02:49 PM

Well you know I'd have to have some kind of Lightning, because of the pimp dual round headlights :lol:

FT BSTRD

11-13-2009, 05:10 PM

The XB9R was produced up until the 2009 Model Year.

The 9 motor is really one of the best motors produced by Buell. It didn't have the low end grunt of the stroked 12 motor (same bore longer stroke), but it was MUCH smoother.

The only new bikes coming with the 9 motor are the SX. The City X (XB9SX) is a fantastic commuter/urban bike. Good low end torque, smooth engine, low fuell consumption (55-60MPG).

I have three XB9SX bikes waiting. Two Red, one Blue.

http://image.sportrider.com/f/16887706+w750+st0/146_0901_19_z+2009_sportbike_buyers_guide+buell_XB 9SX.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7tXD5Ng_b98/SpI64rrx-1I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/8Ui-F8ftT8M/s400/2009-Buell-Lightning-XB12Ssd.jpg

You can do a big bore kit for them and get very good power and torque out of these motors.

Tmall

11-13-2009, 05:46 PM

Xb9, yes. Xb9r, no. I'm almost 100% sure of it.

Trying to find some proof, ill link it when I get it.

Tmall

11-13-2009, 05:50 PM

The only proof I can find is service manuals, and they only go as far as 2007.

I honestly did think they only did a small run of them and discontinued it not long after the 12. I stand corrected.

marko138

11-13-2009, 06:58 PM

According to my material the last XB9R model year was 2007. That's directly out of page 104 of "25 years of Buell".

Homeslice

11-13-2009, 07:10 PM

And the last XB9S (not SX) was.......?

marko138

11-13-2009, 07:13 PM

Plain 9S was made in 2004.

racedoll

11-16-2009, 09:06 AM

That's sad

:iagree:

Pretty sure you can see what that one guy is thinking...(white shirt)

So sad, hope they all find jobs soon.

I would say purple shirt guy is easier to see what is in his mind.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it isn't for sale because it's going into a personal collection or museum somewhere.

Yup, what I was thinking too.

karl_1052

11-16-2009, 06:12 PM

Buells final truckload.

I guess the shippers didn't care since they are losing their jobs.redflip

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Fate.jpg

Amber Lamps

11-16-2009, 06:34 PM

Buells final truckload.

I guess the shippers didn't care since they are losing their jobs.redflip

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Fate.jpg

:bigrofl:

Aw man that was fucking crazy!!!

Rangerscott

11-16-2009, 07:04 PM

Buells final truckload.

I guess the shippers didn't care since they are losing their jobs.redflip

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Fate.jpg

That's sad to see no matter what bike it is.

jalaan1

11-16-2009, 07:06 PM

that just sucks.
they could have given them to MSF courses.

tached1000rr

11-16-2009, 07:07 PM

lots of spare parts in that bin

Adeptus_Minor

11-16-2009, 07:26 PM

lots of spare parts in that bin

That's what I'm thinking.
Granted, I'm not strong enough to muscle those things around, but I'd love to dig in there for parts. :dthumb:
You could probably come out with a helluva custom build.

racedoll

11-16-2009, 07:32 PM

lots of spare parts in that bin

Probably something I could use too! Damn...

Rangerscott

11-16-2009, 09:04 PM

I'm a big junkyard whore. I'd live at one if I could.

Trip

11-16-2009, 09:10 PM

Buells final truckload.

I guess the shippers didn't care since they are losing their jobs.redflip

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Fate.jpg

way to get the thread back on track :lol: nice

FT BSTRD

11-16-2009, 10:47 PM

That picture makes me want to throw up.

Beat the fuck out of someone.

And then throw up some more.

I hope the HD executives that did this hemorrhage out their ass from ebola.

RACER X

11-17-2009, 01:29 PM

buell that almost was

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Potential.jpg

marko138

11-17-2009, 01:33 PM

Rumor is that was a 1199cc Rotax. Notice the pods are gone. And btw...I dont like it.

Cutty72

11-17-2009, 01:39 PM

Rumor is that was a 1199cc Rotax. Notice the pods are gone. And btw...I dont like it.

looks very... Japanese, except for the ZTL2 brakes.

marko138

11-17-2009, 01:40 PM

looks very... Japanese, except for the ZTL2 brakes.
I think it looks shitty. I like naked bikes.

karl_1052

11-17-2009, 02:14 PM

Rumor is that was a 1199cc Rotax. Notice the pods are gone. And btw...I dont like it.

I like it alot.
The problem with the 1135 was that the nose stuck out too far, and the lobster claws.
The XB was light years ahead, stylingwise.

marko138

11-17-2009, 04:45 PM

I like it alot.
The problem with the 1135 was that the nose stuck out too far, and the lobster claws.
The XB was light years ahead, stylingwise.
I love my XB, love the way it looks. The 1125 I'm not wild about, but it was still a unique bike. This thing, whatever it was, looks too much like every other bike on the road.

Dave

11-17-2009, 05:32 PM

buell that almost was

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Buell_Potential.jpg

now THAT could have won my dollars and a place in my garage

looks too much like every other bike on the road.

what you mean good? not everyone wants to ride a circus sideshow.

Homeslice

11-17-2009, 06:35 PM

The problem with the 1125 was that the nose stuck out too far.
And too wide.....looks like someone sat on the headlights, squashing them.

The Lightnings = best-looking Buells. Classic-looking dual lights and flyscreen.

marko138

11-17-2009, 06:51 PM

And too wide.....looks like someone sat on the headlights, squashing them.

The Lightnings = best-looking Buells. Classic-looking dual lights and flyscreen.
Lightnings were and are bad ass looking bikes. I shoulda bought one of them over my Firebolt.

Tmall

11-17-2009, 08:58 PM

I agree as well marko. If I could do it again, I'd have a lightning ss sitting out back.

Rangerscott

11-17-2009, 09:06 PM

Love the lightning look.

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 01:32 AM

I'm in the process of buying this:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/463543.jpg

marko138

11-18-2009, 07:36 AM

I'm in the process of buying this:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/463543.jpg
Nice. Good color, too.

Cutty72

11-18-2009, 03:19 PM

I'm in the process of buying this:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/463543.jpg

about fucking time.

marko138

11-18-2009, 03:20 PM

I want a black and amber XB12S. Straight up.

dReWpY

11-18-2009, 04:53 PM

I'm in the process of buying this:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/463543.jpg

about time, when u want to ride....

Rangerscott

11-18-2009, 07:26 PM

Better stock up on drive belts. Sure would suck to have a bike that you cant ride or sell cause it no go. LOL

Hopefully HD wont be too big of dicks when it comes to part ordering.

Tmall

11-18-2009, 08:20 PM

My belt is guaranteed for life. Thys a contract Harley agereef to when they sold me the bike on that feature.

Amber Lamps

11-18-2009, 08:28 PM

now THAT could have won my dollars and a place in my garage

what you mean good? not everyone wants to ride a circus sideshow.

That's the bike I dream of... an American bike that doesn't look like some fucking engineering exercise put together by a mad man! Sometimes, I think Buell made things different just for the sake of being different... Show me a REAL benefit or leave well enough alone!

Rangerscott

11-18-2009, 08:41 PM

My belt is guaranteed for life. Thys a contract Harley agereef to when they sold me the bike on that feature.

Sweet. Do they wear out eventually? Belt drive looks cool but too big at the same time.

Smooth riding isnt it?

That's the bike I dream of... an American bike that doesn't look like some fucking engineering exercise put together by a mad man! Sometimes, I think Buell made things different just for the sake of being different... Show me a REAL benefit or leave well enough alone!

I like the fuel in the frame idea.

Dave

11-18-2009, 08:50 PM

I like the fuel in the frame idea.

thats funny, the gas doesnt

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 08:56 PM

thats funny, the gas doesnt

What do you mean?

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 09:01 PM

about time, when u want to ride....

Can't pull the trigger yet. I've sent my buddy some money. I have to finish paying for it to ride it.

In the mean time, I've got use of a mutt 2000 M2 Cyclone.

I think I may duck out Friday afternoon for a while.

Interested?

Dave

11-18-2009, 09:03 PM

What do you mean?

early 1125s had issues boiling their gas

dReWpY

11-18-2009, 09:08 PM

Can't pull the trigger yet. I've sent my buddy some money. I have to finish paying for it to ride it.

In the mean time, I've got use of a mutt 2000 M2 Cyclone.

I think I may duck out Friday afternoon for a while.

Interested?

yes i have friday off

Amber Lamps

11-18-2009, 09:08 PM

early 1125s had issues boiling their gas

Not to mention the lack of range...

dReWpY

11-18-2009, 09:09 PM

it aint that bad, i get farther on my 1125 then ever possible on the rc

kinda like the welds on the suzuki, it was an issue, now its fixed

Tmall

11-18-2009, 09:26 PM

They do wear out, but they're supposed to replace em for me.

I have about 24k kms on mine and the tensioner spins freely. I've been told that's an indication of it being ready to break.

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 09:45 PM

early 1125s had issues boiling their gas

Not the frame's fault. It was the fact that an Austrian engine doesn't like it when you give it SAE fuel tables.

Current models and 2008s with corrected fuel maps don't boil gas.

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 09:46 PM

Not to mention the lack of range...

It'll go 160-180 miles before you run out of gas. What kind of range do you expect?

FT BSTRD

11-18-2009, 09:48 PM

yes i have friday off

I've got a lunch, but I'm free after that. I could hook up with you around 1:00-1:30.

Puckets?

Adeptus_Minor

11-19-2009, 03:22 AM

It'll go 160-180 miles before you run out of gas. What kind of range do you expect?

That's more than I got out of my TLR, though I never ran it all the way out of gas.

karl_1052

11-19-2009, 09:15 AM

Sweet. Do they wear out eventually? Belt drive looks cool but too big at the same time.

Smooth riding isnt it?

I like the fuel in the frame idea.

a local guy with an XB9R has 60000kms on his original belt.

Cutty72

11-19-2009, 12:47 PM

Not to mention the lack of range...

with it at it's worst fuel economy state (before all the reflashes) and me riding the piss out of it (read racing and stunting) I got 125 miles on a tank.

It's much better now after the reflash and Drummer.
I get about 40 mpg average... which means I could get 200 miles on it if I wanted to run it almost empty. I fill up between 150 and 180 miles just cause.

I even got an average of 24 mpg on the track...

Tmall

11-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Sigh. I get 180 kms before the gas light comes on. So, 110 miles?

Cutty72

11-19-2009, 12:52 PM

Sigh. I get 180 kms before the gas light comes on. So, 110 miles?

Bonus bigger tank!!!!

marko138

11-19-2009, 01:13 PM

Bonus bigger tank!!!!
All we gots is 3.7 gallons. My light comes on between 110 and 120 miles. No big deal to me. I dont need to go anyfarther before I take a break.

Cutty72

11-19-2009, 01:46 PM

All we gots is 3.7 gallons. My light comes on between 110 and 120 miles. No big deal to me. I dont need to go anyfarther before I take a break.

yeah, i have 5.2 or something like that. it works for me.

Rangerscott

12-13-2009, 05:44 PM

I forgot that the R and CR have different faces. Can you bash off the ugly R face with a Lousville Slugger and then put on a CR face?

Also, is the muffler's secondary operation a skid plate or flotation device?

Wish there was a Buell dealer here. If I saw a CR for $5k, I'd hump it all the way home.

Adeptus_Minor

12-14-2009, 01:06 PM

I forgot that the R and CR have different faces. Can you bash off the ugly R face with a Lousville Slugger and then put on a CR face?

:nono:
Also, is the muffler's secondary operation a skid plate or flotation device?

Wish there was a Buell dealer here. If I saw a CR for $5k, I'd hump it all the way home.

Have you actually sat on the CR? I don't know about you, but I find feeling like you're leaning over the front wheel very disconcerting.
The R's geometry isn't really different but that 'ugly face' as you call it (:nono: ) keeps you from feeling like you're going to go over the nose if you get on the brakes.

marko138

12-14-2009, 01:35 PM

Have you actually sat on the CR? I don't know about you, but I find feeling like you're leaning over the front wheel very disconcerting.
The R's geometry isn't really different but that 'ugly face' as you call it (:nono: ) keeps you from feeling like you're going to go over the nose if you get on the brakes.
High bar kit FTW.

FT BSTRD

12-14-2009, 06:05 PM

The Cafe Racer bars were marketing hype and were a not toward the British cafe racer scene and allowed them to call it a "CR".

They were mostly unpopular, and as a result the vast majority of new CR owners opted for the high bar kit.

Buell could have done what most manufacturers would have, continue to sell the bike with an unpopular stock set-up AND sell the desired upgrade for additional mark-up.

Instead, Buell was slated to have all of the 2010 CRs equipped with the high bar and sell the cafe racer bars as an "option".

I agree, though, that the CR bars sucked and put the rider in completely the wrong position for a naked street fighter.