New Android Version for Nexus One may change my mind about "Jumping Ship"

[Dave]

Phone?

droid 1

I do like the way you have LauncherPro setup. How did you get the launcher icons to look like that?

the dock background? or the icons themselves?

[Rangerscott]

droid 1



the dock background? or the icons themselves?


What OS?

[Dave]

What OS?

dew912's smoked glass v10, ive been using his stuff for a while. very stable and some real cool options.



http://androidforums.com/droid-roms/211268-rom-charity-smoked-glass-themed-v-10-froyo-2-2-1-fast-stable-great-battery-life.html

UPDATE.ZIP File. See instructions below.

v10 - Changelog from 9.x
Improved performance and battery life (LV Kernel)
Option in Browser settings for Full Screen
Long press on Volume keys to change tracks when screen is off
New version of Elliot Stocker Music App
New version of Cyan's MMS app
New version of Google Maps
New version of YouTube
New icon for Google Talk notification
New Battery icon in status bar
Removed Google Voice (Download from market)

Installation file is in update.zip format; compatible with both SPRecovery & Clockworkmod.


I've pretty much ported the smoked glass theme we all have come to know and love and packaged it into a pretty awesome Froyo 2.2.1 Based ROM. This is an update to my original posting found here: [ROM]--CHARITY--Smoked Glass Themed v9.0 Froyo 2.2.1 Built From Source! BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

I don't think asking for personal donations is in line with the ideas behind open source software. Thus, I have decided to collect donation money for charity.

Please Donate, read below...

ALL (100%) of the money will go to NATIONAL PARK FOUNDATION: Oil Disaster Recovery. I will be fully transparent in this process and will show any donors proof of the organization's receipt. I know this is a new idea, I hope it catches on. Please check out the organization at:

Help Our Gulf Parks

Send donations directly by clicking the link above, or PM me for my PayPal address.

So far I have gotten excellent feedback on the ROM.

Here's some info on it:
ChevyNo1's 1100Mhz Ultra Low Voltage Kernel (Fast boot time, Improved Battery life, Great performance)
Built from AOSP source, Based on Froyo 2.2.1, newest available release
FRG22D Motorola Droid Propieratary Files
Deodex'd, Zipaligned, & Fully Optimized!
Custom Lockscreen with Rotary unlock
Music Controls on Lock Screen (Matching buttons to jog dial)
Long press on volume rocker for prev/next track
Added Silent option to the volume rocker
Added Reboot option to the power menu
FLAC support system-wide. Works in Music Player
Fully enabled & working apps2sd
Root Access w/ SuperUser 2.3.6
Busybox Installed & Working
All Ads Blocked! Apps & Browser
Smoked Glass Widgets (Credit to AdamZ)
Minimum Brightness Hack
Higher quality video recording
HTC Toolbar / Toolbar Icons
White Clock / All Ongoing Notifications Fixed (Music, Phone, etc)
Big library of system sounds (All 2.0, 2.1, & 2.2)
Droid X Ringtones
Green Progress Bar
Long WiFi Scan (Battery Saver)
Ringer Delay Fix
No file type restrictions for downloads (Without Download Crutch Lite)
Music App by Elliot Stocker (slightly modified, white notication, smoked glass widget, no artwork borders)
Pandora (1.5) in /system with matching white notifications and smoked glass widgets
Droid X Video Player - Avi/Dixv support
Video App
Camcorder App (credit to 4wei)
Includes Motoroi File Manager, Notes Widget, Slideshow widget, and World Clock widget
MMS app from CyanogenMod (more customizable, including black background)
Newest version of Google Maps (4.6)
Newest version of Google Street View (1.6.0.6)
Newest version of Gmail (2.3)
Newest version of Google Search (1.1.1)
Newest version of Voice Search (2.0.1)
Newest version of SuperUser (2.3.6.1)
Newest Version of Car Home (2.2.1)
Newest Version of YouTube (2.0.2.6)
Removed Twitter (Download from market)
I removed Visual Voicemail & Amazon MP3 from /system/apps.
In this release, I decided to leave Email & Car Home 2.2. If you want to remove it (or any other /system application) use Titanium Backup - free in market.
Wired/Wireless Tether Tested & Working (no longer included)
I highly recommend using Launcher Pro, It's free in the market. Much smoother than the stock Launcher....


Download link: sg102-update.zip

Instructions...

Backing up...
Google saves your contacts, programs, settings, and bookmarks on the cloud.
You can double-back up program with Titanium backup, which will also backup application settings
You can back up text messages with a market app called "SMS Backup & Restore".

File is in the UPDATE.ZIP format.

Clockworkmod
Place the file you downloaded anywhere on the SD Card. Easiest place would be the root directory.
Chose "Install zip from sdcard" from the main menu
Select "Chose zip from sdcard"
Browse to the file (SG9-update.zip) and select it. Confirm the install, let it do it's magic.
Reboot.

SPRecovery
Rename the file you downloaded to update.zip and place it in the root of the SD Card.
Select Install from the main menu
Select Allow update.zip Installation
Select Install /sdcard/update.zip (deprecated)
Reboot.

If you are running the most recent version of my ROM, you may not need to wipe data/cache (factory reset). It's never a bad idea though. If you bootloop, that is the reason.

Here's a few quick screenshots:





Here are a few more cool apps while I'm at it...

Get Wireless Tether Here:
android-wifi-tether - Project Hosting on Google Code

Get Wired Tether Here:
android-wired-tether - Project Hosting on Google Code

SetCPU:
Market (Support the Dev!)
-or-
SetCPU for Root Users [2.0.2] This *actually* changes everything. 08/02/2010 - xda-developers

Chrome2Phone (Download Android Program from Market, Download plugin for your browser here)
Downloads - chrometophone - Project Hosting on Google Code

DroidX wallpapers. Download here: xpapers.zip

Enjoy!

[Rangerscott]

Do I need to "unlock" the phone before I do this?

[Dave]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_violet.png

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_red_transparent.png

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/th_dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_green_transparent.png?t=1290234768

heres the docks (purple one is messed up) cant remember where i snagged those. maybe the launcher pro site?

Do I need to "unlock" the phone before I do this?

yes, it would have to be rooted prior.

[Rangerscott]

You mind posting a link on how to root. I don't know shit on phone roms stuff yet.

[Akilldema]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_violet.png

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_red_transparent.png

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/th_dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_green_transparent.png?t=1290234768

heres the docks (purple one is messed up) cant remember where i snagged those. maybe the launcher pro site?



yes, it would have to be rooted prior.
I was talking about the dockbars, looks good. I use ADW since it's integrated into CM6, but I like the look of that a lot.

[Dave]

You mind posting a link on how to root. I don't know shit on phone roms stuff yet.

http://androidforums.com/droid-all-things-root/163259-motorola-droid-all-things-root-guide-updated-october-11th-2010-11-05pm-est.html

[Akilldema]

You mind posting a link on how to root. I don't know shit on phone roms stuff yet.
I did the first one.

http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/11/how-to-root-your-android-phone-superoneclick-method/

http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/26/universal-android-rooting-procedure-rage-method/

http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/15/universal-android-rooting-method-visionary-method/

[Dave]

I was talking about the dockbars, looks good. I use ADW since it's integrated into CM6, but I like the look of that a lot.

i tried cm6 on vic's g1. didnt work well :lol: and im so satisfied with dew's work i had no interest in trying it on the droid

[Akilldema]

It runs seamlessly on my phone, they release new versions just about daily, constantly working on fixing stuff. I haven't noticed any issues since about a month ago.

[Rangerscott]

Can I unroot my droid if I need to send it in?

[Rangerscott]

Dammit. I got the "waiting on device"

[Akilldema]

I got that a bunch of times, even after all the drivers were right,etc. Does your pc recognize the phone?

[Rangerscott]

i believe so. Let me check.

[Rangerscott]

Got it. I installed those two programs from this how to and my laptop found it then.

http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/23/how-to-root-the-motorola-droid/

Now I should make a back up of my stock rom, correct?

[Akilldema]

Yeah, it can't hurt to do it now when everything is working perfectly. It will come in handy later if you decide to flash a rom or start messing with things.

[Rangerscott]

Well im boot looping

[Akilldema]

Try doing a battery pull, or check the droid boards, that method worked for my phone and a galaxy s phone I did for a friend.

[Rangerscott]

Got it. Had to do a wipe. Well it's auto reinstalling all my apps and its late. I'm off. Thanks for the help guys. I get that setcpu app tomorrow and fart around with that.

[Dave]

Got it. Had to do a wipe. Well it's auto reinstalling all my apps and its late. I'm off. Thanks for the help guys. I get that setcpu app tomorrow and fart around with that.

I run mine at 1100 interactive 24/7. With no issues. Not all phones react the same tho

Well im boot looping

Wipe everything. Everytime

[Dave]

It runs seamlessly on my phone, they release new versions just about daily, constantly working on fixing stuff. I haven't noticed any issues since about a month ago.

Big thing for me is he has it set up to shuffle the music player on a long press of the volume rocker.

[Akilldema]

Wipe everything. Everytime

I don't do this if I am upgrading to a newer version of the same rom. It works fine and retains all app/widget placement, calls, sms, etc. I only wipe dalvik.

Anyway, I didn't realize you were flashing a rom last night Rangerscott, thought you were just rooting it for the time being.

[Rangerscott]

Well shuffle still doesn't work when I just have an album playing, but it seems to still work when I play all songs on my SD card.

[Akilldema]

What rom are you running?

[Rangerscott]

Running that smoked screen that was posted last night. It does the same with the stock froyo rom.

Can you recommend me a media player app?

[Akilldema]

Astro player beta was ok for me, you could try searching for media player or music player in market and try the highest rated ones.

[Rangerscott]

What rom do you think is the coolest "looking" one? One that super flashy and bedazzeled.

[Akilldema]

Honestly I couldn't accurately answer that since I don't have a droid. I did see that CyanogenMod makes a "nightly" rom for your phone which is what I run on mine. It might not be as good on yours though. Try posting on HowardForums.com in the Verizon section or http://forum.xda-developers.com/ .

[Akilldema]

Dave - Could you help me out with the LauncherPro thing, I have never used it but I really like the style yours had. Where can I get that theme that had your dockbars looking like that? Particularly in red or white.

[Rangerscott]

White would look good.

[Akilldema]

Yeah particularly on my phone because the status bar is white. I don't think red would look as good unless I can turn my status bar black.

[Dave]

Dave - Could you help me out with the LauncherPro thing, I have never used it but I really like the style yours had. Where can I get that theme that had your dockbars looking like that? Particularly in red or white.

Sure, icons can be changed via a longpress on each position, I'm using the stock launcher pro icons with the background I posted further up the thread. I only run three screens and two docks

[Akilldema]

I'm talking about that red glow you have at the bottom of your screen, specifically. I'd like to find something like that in red or white.

[Dave]

I'm talking about that red glow you have at the bottom of your screen, specifically. I'd like to find something like that in red or white.

yeah thats the dock background, like i said i posted the original image a page or two back.

i think it came from here, lots of interesting junk in there

http://launcherpro.droidicon.com/

http://launcherpro.droidicon.com/sites/default/files/lpdocks/dockbar_-_light_cards_3x_white_mist_transparent.png

something like this?

[Akilldema]

Ok, I found several dock backgrounds I like, maybe I'm a dumbass, but I'm not seeing in LP prefs where to choose your own background..?

[Dave]

prefs>appearance settings>dock background>custom>choose file

[Akilldema]

Cool, thanks man. I love the amount of options and constant new features these things have.

[Dave]

Cool, thanks man. I love the amount of options and constant new features these things have.

no prob man, how'd you like that cx? those are on the potential new work hack list.

[Akilldema]

You referring to my CX500? I still have it, good bike. It's slow obviously but it runs well and looks good.

[Dave]

good to know. its not first on my list, but theres always a couple available around here

[Akilldema]

I think mine has like 80,000 miles. Ok, so I got a LP setup I like. I want to add a couple more icons to my home screen, but I want them to be the translucent style ones like in the dock bar.. is this possible?

[Dave]

I think mine has like 80,000 miles. Ok, so I got a LP setup I like. I want to add a couple more icons to my home screen, but I want them to be the translucent style ones like in the dock bar.. is this possible?

absolutely, you can find the icons on the link where you got the dock.

longpress a blank spot on the homescreen, shortcuts>applications>pick the app from the list>tap the icon>select new icon>ok

[Akilldema]

Cool, liking LP, except that it has some widget limitations unless you buy the pro version. I like how this looks for now.. BTW Dave, what are your quad scores looking like?

[Dave]

Cool, liking LP, except that it has some widget limitations unless you buy the pro version. I like how this looks for now.. BTW Dave, what are your quad scores looking like?

looks good, i prefer the backgrounds with a fade out but thats personal preference.

1338 quadrant
15.132 linpack

[Akilldema]

I never ran linpack before yesterday but I managed to get a 40 on it at 1.2ghz.

[Dave]

ran it again with the cpu redlined (as opposed to interactive mode)

1493 quadrant
15.054 linpack

I never ran linpack before yesterday but I managed to get a 40 on it at 1.2ghz.

droid?

[Akilldema]

No, I have an HTC Desire. I usually leave my phone at on demand 1113 to save battery, etc. With that I get 1800s and 35 on Linpack.

[Dave]

No, I have an HTC Desire. I usually leave my phone at on demand 1113 to save battery, etc. With that I get 1800s and 35 on Linpack.

that explains it, i think you guys have us beat on memory and a few other things. if you really wanna get depressed run it on a g2. only runs at 800mhz and hits like 60 stock :eek:


looked it up, 576 vs 256 :lol:

[Akilldema]

Yeah, my friend told me about that. 1500ish quads I think too. That kernel I'm using is literally days old and being contructed from a GSM one by a guy that's new to making them so I'm hoping that I'll see a little more performance in the finished product. I saw that G2s can be safely clocked to 1.4+Ghz and are getting 2500+ quad scores. On the plus side for us is they're on T-Mobile, lol.

[Rangerscott]

Had to go up to Verizon and have the tack on line taken off. Switched to a Verizon plan and was able to get a phone at discout. Got me a droid x.

[Dave]

So I hear Sony is announcing a psp phone tonight. Running gingerbread on att

[Trip]

on att

deal killer

[Dave]

deal killer

Pert much. Bet I can steal the apk though

[Amber Lamps]

deal killer

Ditto. Heck, the PSP Go is really only a GSM chip away from being a phone but AT&T, no thanks.

[Dave]

Lightened up the memory requirements on launcher pro, and redlined the processor. 1500 on quadrant, 16.9 linpack. Running chevyno1's 1250 mhz kernel with a prototype gingerbread rom. Very stable. Not bad for an old D1

[G-Rex]

I loaded up Gingerbread on my Nexus One Friday, and so far I really like it. They changed the look/color of the items on the status bar. The copy/paste is improved as well.

They also improved the functionality of making calls from the call log which was one of my biggest complaints.

It also has a pretty cool animation now for when you hit the power button to turn off the screen. It's like a television turning off where the image compresses vertically to a white line in the middle of the screen and then disappears.

[Dave]

I'm done with charity. Running chevyno1's simply stunning 5.2

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/ScreenShot-9.png

Badass

[Rangerscott]

First my gallery stopped working and wont load up (been like that for 6 months or so). Now my browser doesn't work any more. It'll open and try to load google, but the loading bar freaks out and force closes the browser.

This will most likely be my last android phone.

[G-Rex]

First my gallery stopped working and wont load up (been like that for 6 months or so). Now my browser doesn't work any more. It'll open and try to load google, but the loading bar freaks out and force closes the browser.

This will most likely be my last android phone.

Yep. Same here. I loved the Android OS, but the last update to Gingerbread just made my phone practically unusable. I was very displeased with it.

I went back to an iPhone 4, and whaddya know, the best parts of Android that I really liked were included in the iOs5 update. This pleases me.

I don't have the aversion to Apple that alot of people do. I want what works.

Still have my Nexus One. Just haven't decided what to do with it yet. Long range AR15 target maybe. LOL

[Homeslice]

Lightened up the memory requirements on launcher pro, and redlined the processor. 1500 on quadrant, 16.9 linpack. Running chevyno1's 1250 mhz kernel with a prototype gingerbread rom. Very stable. Not bad for an old D1

:?:

[azoomm]

First my gallery stopped working and wont load up (been like that for 6 months or so). Now my browser doesn't work any more. It'll open and try to load google, but the loading bar freaks out and force closes the browser.

This will most likely be my last android phone.

And, did you root it?

[Amber Lamps]

And, did you root it?

Yes he did..... I've never had any operational problems with my EVO 4G ..... You play with fire and sometimes you get burned......

[Particle Man]

Yes he did..... I've never had any operational problems with my EVO 4G ..... You play with fire and sometimes you get burned......

Welcome back, dude

[Amber Lamps]

Welcome back, dude

Oh thanks..:...

[Rangerscott]

And, did you root it?

I shouldnt have to root a phone for it to work properly. I shouldnt have to rebuild an engine for it to run correctly. I shouldn't have to............get the point.

[derf]

Oh thanks..:...

Welcome back, glad to seed you are alive!

[Rangerscott]

Oh thanks..:...

About fucking time. I've been so lonely.

[Amber Lamps]

Welcome back, glad to seed you are alive!

Barely...if you call living in Michigan alive... Yay...:..

[Amber Lamps]

About fucking time. I've been so lonely.

Dude you have two hands and you buy lotion by the barrel....how can you get lonley?

[azoomm]

Welcome back, Lon.

I shouldnt have to root a phone for it to work properly. I shouldnt have to rebuild an engine for it to run correctly. I shouldn't have to............get the point.

I only asked because the Nexus phones that I know have punted have been rooted. Don't root. :wink:

[EpyonXero]

If you rooted it and now its broken its most likely your fault.

[Homeslice]

People still use EVO's?

[Dave]

Welcome back, Lon.



I only asked because the Nexus phones that I know have punted have been rooted. Don't root. :wink:

My Droid has been rooted and overclocked 110% for well over a year now. No real issues besides a lack of physical ram.

[azoomm]

My Droid has been rooted and overclocked 110% for well over a year now. No real issues besides a lack of physical ram.

Is yours one of the Nexus models?

[Dave]

Is yours one of the Nexus models?

noope

[Trip]

People still use EVO's?

Until their 2 years are up.

[azoomm]

noope

Then why do we care? :nee:

[marko138]

Yes he did..... I've never had any operational problems with my EVO 4G ..... You play with fire and sometimes you get burned......

Really? I absolutely hate mine. My only and probably last android phone. F this POS.

[Homeslice]

Until their 2 years are up.

:lol

Couldn't deal with 2 years of Sprint, it is the slowest of the "4G's", and the spottiest as well.

[Trip]

:lol

Couldn't deal with 2 years of Sprint, it is the slowest of the "4G's", and the spottiest as well.

Wimax is faster than AT&Ts "Faux G" AT&T has just started using LTE and it is pretty much nowhere, it lobbied itself into being included into the 4G category with HSPA+. That is really more like 3.5G, not a true 4G.

[Homeslice]

Verizon rules, too bad it's so expensive

[Trip]

Verizon rules, too bad it's so expensive

It's cheap for me. I get a nice percentage discount as a federal employee and I have the unlimited bandwidth plan. Plus I blocked texting and use google voice or email for that.

I am still stuck on 3G though, don't come due for a new phone til January.

[Amber Lamps]

Really? I absolutely hate mine. My only and probably last android phone. F this POS.

As with anything, it all depends on what you are trying to do. I make phone calls, text, check email, watch netflix, take pictures and a do a small amount of net surfing. For me it works great and in this area 4G is pretty common.

[Corey]

It's cheap for me. I get a nice percentage discount as a federal employee and I have the unlimited bandwidth plan. Plus I blocked texting and use google voice or email for that.

I am still stuck on 3G though, don't come due for a new phone til January.

I get a nice Verizon discount through work as well. My bill is relatively cheap. If I didn't have the discount, I'd be paying about $100 a month and I'd probably be looking elsewhere come renewal. As it stands, the discount takes a nice big chunk out of the cost and the coverage has been better than AT&T and Sprint in this area. I can deal with 3G for now. I'm on wifi quite a bit, but I wouldn't mind having LTE. They flipped the switch on it here months ago. I'd like to see a little speed boost.

[Corey]

As with anything, it all depends on what you are trying to do. I make phone calls, text, check email, watch netflix, take pictures and a do a small amount of net surfing. For me it works great and in this area 4G is pretty common.

I had a Droid X that I really loved. It was an excellent phone with a nice big screen, a decent camera, and dead solid reliable.

Then Gingerbread came out. My phone was completely unusable. Half the time, I couldn't make phone calls. The camera worked maybe a quarter of the time, if I was lucky. When I opened the camera, though, it completely shut down my 3G until I rebooted the phone. The browser was 100% nonfunctional. Sending an MMS would completely lock up my phone. I could send and receive emails (if I didn't try to use the camera) and SMS. The option I got first from Verizon was to pound sand. A second call got me the option to swap out to a refurb, or pound sand. From reading all the problems people were having with the Gingerbread update in general on the Droid X, it wasn't an option I was willing to take. I've played that game when I had the Blackberry Storm and Blackberry Tour swapped out endless times. I refuse to play phone roulette hoping to get one that does what it's supposed to do. So I got rid of the Droid X and bailed on android for now. I'll keep an eye on them as ICS rolls out and see how it goes.

[Homeslice]

I shouldnt have to root a phone for it to work properly. I shouldnt have to rebuild an engine for it to run correctly. I shouldn't have to............get the point.

I thought you guys were all about re-rooting just for the hell of it? Just to get a different GUI or to jailbreak something.

[pauldun170]

Yes he did..... I've never had any operational problems with my EVO 4G ..... You play with fire and sometimes you get burned......

Welcome back

[marko138]

As with anything, it all depends on what you are trying to do. I make phone calls, text, check email, watch netflix, take pictures and a do a small amount of net surfing. For me it works great and in this area 4G is pretty common.
Minus netflix thats all I do. Mine reboots whenever the hell it feels like it. Freezes up. And generally acts shitty. Also the battery life is a joke. Total bullshit. Not to mention Sprints coverage is heinous. I don't care about 4G...I can get it here but I dont use it b/c it's just another drain on the crap battery.

[Particle Man]

Barely...if you call living in Michigan alive... Yay...:..

Only when it snows and it's snowmobile season.

[Trip]

I thought you guys were all about re-rooting just for the hell of it? Just to get a different GUI or to jailbreak something.

I root and mine is stable as shit.

I get a nice Verizon discount through work as well. My bill is relatively cheap. If I didn't have the discount, I'd be paying about $100 a month and I'd probably be looking elsewhere come renewal. As it stands, the discount takes a nice big chunk out of the cost and the coverage has been better than AT&T and Sprint in this area. I can deal with 3G for now. I'm on wifi quite a bit, but I wouldn't mind having LTE. They flipped the switch on it here months ago. I'd like to see a little speed boost.

LTE here is about 30 mbps as opposed to 3G which is 2...

[Corey]

LTE here is about 30 mbps as opposed to 3G which is 2...

Nice. Any idea how much it takes a hit when a bunch of people are on it?

[Porkchop]

First my gallery stopped working and wont load up (been like that for 6 months or so). Now my browser doesn't work any more. It'll open and try to load google, but the loading bar freaks out and force closes the browser.

This will most likely be my last android phone.

Holy shit. My browser started freaking out on me this past Saturday. I thought it was just my phone. I found a way around it with the Google search bar. This is my only major problem since introduction day. Going to Verizon tomorrow. Good to know its not just me though...

Barely...if you call living in Michigan alive... Yay...:..

Ouch. Welcome to a shortened riding season.... :bash:

[Rangerscott]

Holy shit. My browser started freaking out on me this past Saturday. I thought it was just my phone. I found a way around it with the Google search bar. This is my only major problem since introduction day. Going to Verizon tomorrow. Good to know its not just me though...



Ouch. Welcome to a shortened riding season.... :bash:


You must be about to get the major update. I got a popup last night asking to do an update and ignored it. Now it's automatically doing it right meow and of course it's stuck on 5%.

[Trip]

Nice. Any idea how much it takes a hit when a bunch of people are on it?

no idea, Verizon is really beefing up their shit.

[Amber Lamps]

Minus netflix thats all I do. Mine reboots whenever the hell it feels like it. Freezes up. And generally acts shitty. Also the battery life is a joke. Total bullshit. Not to mention Sprints coverage is heinous. I don't care about 4G...I can get it here but I dont use it b/c it's just another drain on the crap battery.

Too true about battery life..... I have a charger in every room, in every vehicle, on my bike....:lol: I seriously have at least 8 chargers.....

[Rangerscott]

no idea, Verizon is really beefing up their shit.

Not in our area. It would be nice if 3g would work properly.


Well it got up to 32%, hung there for a good while and not it's at 0%. Battery is now out of the phone.

[Porkchop]

Too true about battery life..... I have a charger in every room, in every vehicle, on my bike....:lol: I seriously have at least 8 chargers.....

Thats what sucks about 4g. I can go 2 days without a charge with regular useage. I've gone 3 days without a charger out of town, but with only internet/text/phonecalls on the second and third day.

[marko138]

Too true about battery life..... I have a charger in every room, in every vehicle, on my bike....:lol: I seriously have at least 8 chargers.....
I have 3. Home, car, and office. And I have 2 batteries. All of which is totally uncalled for, IMO.

[azoomm]

Too true about battery life..... I have a charger in every room, in every vehicle, on my bike....:lol: I seriously have at least 8 chargers.....

:lol: I have three batteries...

[Archren]

I "upgraded" to the HTC Inspire a couple months ago after I cracked the screen on my Nexus One. It seems to work fine, except every so often it dumps all the photos in my gallery. Good thing I have it set to upload to a private gallery in Google + or all those photos would be lost forever - not that they were amazing photos or anything, but some stuff (like photos of my kids) I just like to have.

[EpyonXero]

Im on my second Android phone, upgraded from the OG Droid, and Ive never used anything but the original batteries. I charge at home with my computers USB port, I have a car charger which mostly gets used on long drives and late nights whne my battery is getting low, and I have wall charger that I bring to work with me and that gets used when Im working offshore all day. Not having a signal seems to kill the battery faster, I guess its contantly searching.

[Rangerscott]

What ever update verizon released fixex my gallery but now the browser seems to crash a lot like it used to and the phone wont save any passwords/logins even if I clear everything out in the settings. Android. You suck.

[Porkchop]

What ever update verizon released fixex my gallery but now the browser seems to crash a lot like it used to and the phone wont save any passwords/logins even if I clear everything out in the settings. Android. You suck.

My internet fixed itself. But my camera woulnt load today. I had to restart the phone...

[Rangerscott]

I bought some of those new Winchester PDX1 12ga shells. I wonder what a droid x would look like if one of those happen to go off on it?

[marko138]

My internet fixed itself. But my camera woulnt load today. I had to restart the phone...
Mine's done that a few times with the camera.

[Corey]

I bought some of those new Winchester PDX1 12ga shells. I wonder what a droid x would look like if one of those happen to go off on it?

I was wondering the exact same thing, only with Winchester Bonded .45 ACP hollow points. My plan is to power up the phone, wait for the droid loading "eye" to pop up, and put a bullet right through it. I've got a useless Blackberry Tour awaiting the same fate.

[Method]

Seriously considering pre-ordering the new Droid Razr. It's the exact set of specs I've been looking for to replace the DroidX.

Only downside is LTE+Non-removable battery might wind up being a pain in the ass. They're touting big numbers for the battery life, but we'll see.



http://www.droiddoes.com/#/droidrazr

[Corey]

Seriously considering pre-ordering the new Droid Razr. It's the exact set of specs I've been looking for to replace the DroidX.

Only downside is LTE+Non-removable battery might wind up being a pain in the ass. They're touting big numbers for the battery life, but we'll see.



http://www.droiddoes.com/#/droidrazr

If you don't mind me asking, why the RAZR over the Galaxy Nexus?

[Homeslice]

Seriously considering pre-ordering the new Droid Razr. It's the exact set of specs I've been looking for to replace the DroidX.

Only downside is LTE+Non-removable battery might wind up being a pain in the ass. They're touting big numbers for the battery life, but we'll see.



http://www.droiddoes.com/#/droidrazr

Where are photos of it with its lid open? Seems like it's too thin to be a durable flip-phone.

[Method]

If you don't mind me asking, why the RAZR over the Galaxy Nexus?

There are really only a couple differences between the two
- 8MP on the RAZR vs 5MP on the Nexus (though it really doesn't matter)
- Gingerbread on the RAZE vs ICS on the Nexus (Razr will get ICS shortly I suspect)
- Blur vs Core android.
- Slightly larger screen on the Nexus
- douchebag on the RAZR *edit* lol on the auto edit to douchebag from g0rilla g|ass.

For me personally, I prefer the build quality of the Motorolas over the Samsungs. And I know it's weird, but I actually like the versions of Blur that are out in the DroidX + phones. They're both great phones, and to me it just comes down to a preference for Motorola.


Where are photos of it with its lid open? Seems like it's too thin to be a durable flip-phone.

I haven't seen any teardowns of it yet. The form factor is super thin @ 7.1MM so that is a small worry, but with the strength of the chassis and the motorola build quality I'm not very concerned.

*Edit* I need to break my habit of only skimming homeslice's posts :P It's a slab, and while it's very thin so there is a small durability worry, motorola phones are strong as hell.

[EpyonXero]

Where are photos of it with its lid open? Seems like it's too thin to be a durable flip-phone.

Theres no flip on it.

[EpyonXero]

There are really only a couple differences between the two
- 8MP on the RAZR vs 5MP on the Nexus (though it really doesn't matter)
- Gingerbread on the RAZE vs ICS on the Nexus (Razr will get ICS shortly I suspect)
- Blur vs Core android.
- Slightly larger screen on the Nexus
- douchebag on the RAZR *edit* lol on the auto edit to douchebag from g0rilla g|ass.

For me personally, I prefer the build quality of the Motorolas over the Samsungs. And I know it's weird, but I actually like the versions of Blur that are out in the DroidX + phones. They're both great phones, and to me it just comes down to a preference for Motorola.




I haven't seen any teardowns of it yet. The form factor is super thin @ 7.1MM so that is a small worry, but with the strength of the chassis and the motorola build quality I'm not very concerned.

Motorola said that the Bionic and RAZR will be getting ICS 6 weeks after Google releases it.

[Method]

Theres no flip on it.

lol @ my reading comprehension for the loss. I was thinking he was talking about a tear down and didn't even read the flip-phone sentence.

Epyon is correct - it's a slab.

[Trip]

- 8MP on the RAZR vs 5MP on the Nexus (though it really doesn't matter)

I rather the camera on the nexus, it's zero lag (think DSLR speed.) The glass on it is suppose to be pretty badass too. MP is a worthless spec unless you want to do poster size pictures.

I very much dislike Motorola quality. Seen too many people get burned by them.

[Method]

I rather the camera on the nexus, it's zero lag (think DSLR speed.) The glass on it is suppose to be pretty badass too. MP is a worthless spec unless you want to do poster size pictures.

I very much dislike Motorola quality. Seen too many people get burned by them.

Agreed - anything over 4-5MP on a cameraphone is a waste. The optics just aren't there to really support really high res pictures.

Are these stories in the last couple of years? The last couple years of motorola phones have been fantastic. The samsungs always felt a little flimsy to me which is why I prefer the motorola.

[Trip]

Droid Xs and Droid X2s being pieces of shit, not stories, held them in my hand and saw what pieces of shit they are.

Everyone that has the Samsung Fascinate with it that I know and have used, loves them. No issues.

[Method]

Droid Xs and Droid X2s being pieces of shit, not stories, held them in my hand and saw what pieces of shit they are.

Everyone that has the Samsung Fascinate with it that I know and have used, loves them. No issues.

Odd - I have an X and have loved it - no issues. It's been bulletproof.

[Trip]

I love my HTC incredible, the thunderbolt has kinda steered me away from HTC. Probably will end up with a Galaxy Nexus. Better processor, ICS, and no bloatware.

[Homeslice]

Theres no flip on it.

I thought Motorola just came out with a new droid flip?

[Dave]

I rather the camera on the nexus, it's zero lag (think DSLR speed.) The glass on it is suppose to be pretty badass too. MP is a worthless spec unless you want to do poster size pictures.

I very much dislike Motorola quality. Seen too many people get burned by them.

Moto's metal and glass chassis are fantastic. The locked bootloaders continue to be a problem though or I'd be seriously looking at a razr

[Trip]

Moto's metal and glass chassis are fantastic. The locked bootloaders continue to be a problem though or I'd be seriously looking at a razr

Just seen too much shit come from Motorola mobility, not going to get me to trust that shit for two years.

Maybe when Google takes over and starts sticking their design engineers in there I will change my mind.

[dubbs]

Droid Xs and Droid X2s being pieces of shit, not stories, held them in my hand and saw what pieces of shit they are.

Everyone that has the Samsung Fascinate with it that I know and have used, loves them. No issues.

Had my Droid X for over a year.. whats wrong with them? I've been much happier since my switch from the iphone 4. Only thing I get annoyed w/ is the camera shortcut button, takes like an extra 2-3 to load vs hitting the shortcut.

[Corey]

I had no problem with the hardware on my Droid X. It was a solid piece of phone that was damn near indestructable. I've dropped that thing a bunch of times, and besides the batter door popping off, it kept running without problem. All of my problems came after the software update. They just don't have it down. I had a few problems with the original Droid going from Eclair to Froyo that were eventually sorted, but going from Froyo to Gingerbread on the Droid X made the phone completely unusable. The RAZR looks really nice, and I have faith in the hardware, but the idea of sweating through the upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS two or three months into ownership and hoping that the phone isn't turned to shit because of issues with Blur will guarantee that I don't fuck with the RAZR, or any skinned version of Android for that matter. The Galaxy Nexus with a clean, unskinned, vanilla version of ICS is far more appealing and presents far less bullshit to deal with related to software updates.

[Method]

I had no problem with the hardware on my Droid X. It was a solid piece of phone that was damn near indestructable. I've dropped that thing a bunch of times, and besides the batter door popping off, it kept running without problem. All of my problems came after the software update. They just don't have it down. I had a few problems with the original Droid going from Eclair to Froyo that were eventually sorted, but going from Froyo to Gingerbread on the Droid X made the phone completely unusable. The RAZR looks really nice, and I have faith in the hardware, but the idea of sweating through the upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS two or three months into ownership and hoping that the phone isn't turned to shit because of issues with Blur will guarantee that I don't fuck with the RAZR, or any skinned version of Android for that matter. The Galaxy Nexus with a clean, unskinned, vanilla version of ICS is far more appealing and presents far less bullshit to deal with related to software updates.

That's the odd thing - I heard about folks having issues w/ the upgrade to Gingerbread but I had zero issues, both hardware and software.

I'm also considering waiting till after the new year to possibly step on some new deals on the RAZR and let some folks proof it out.

[dubbs]

That's the odd thing - I heard about folks having issues w/ the upgrade to Gingerbread but I had zero issues, both hardware and software.

I'm also considering waiting till after the new year to possibly step on some new deals on the RAZR and let some folks proof it out.

I had issues with every upgrade so far, each time I needed to wipe the phone each time and start fresh. That pisses some people off but I like starting with a fresh OS every once n a while.. Keeps it as fast as possible.

[Trip]

Wiping and upgrading is a better way to do things. Makes sure you get all legacy files off your OS

[Homeslice]

sounds like you guys need an iphone, lol

[Corey]

sounds like you guys need an iphone, lol

The upgrade from iOS 4.x to iOS 5 wasn't smooth. My pictures got wiped (not a huge deal), even though they were backed up. The servers were so fucked that it took about two hours and change to download the upgrade. When it was upgraded, the same fucked up servers wouldn't authenticate my phone and cancelled the installation. It took a few hours to get things to actually work.

[Trip]

The upgrade from iOS 4.x to iOS 5 wasn't smooth. My pictures got wiped (not a huge deal), even though they were backed up. The servers were so fucked that it took about two hours and change to download the upgrade. When it was upgraded, the same fucked up servers wouldn't authenticate my phone and cancelled the installation. It took a few hours to get things to actually work.

iOS 5, itself is pretty buggy. People had a lot more success doing a wipe and clean install of iOS5 as well.

That's just the nature of OS upgrades. OSX Lion was a bitch for awhile til they got shit sorted out too.

[Method]

sounds like you guys need an iphone, lol

I'd rather eat my own hair, lol.

[Dave]

Wiping and upgrading is a better way to do things. Makes sure you get all legacy files off your OS

yupper, I usually wipe out all the stock apps I dont typically use from the system folder. seems a bit more stable and I dont have to tell it which launcher or music player to use

[marko138]

iOS 5, itself is pretty buggy. People had a lot more success doing a wipe and clean install of iOS5 as well.

That's just the nature of OS upgrades. OSX Lion was a bitch for awhile til they got shit sorted out too.

Not sure it's a big jump...but we upgraded 8 computers at work from Leopard to Snow Leopard and only 1 (mine) had an issue. My superdrive disappeared for a few days then decided to work again.

[dubbs]

sounds like you guys need an iphone, lol

Fuck that I had a 3GS and a 4.. never again..

[Amber Lamps]

Fuck that I had a 3GS and a 4.. never again..

Ah but was it the phone or the carrier...

[dubbs]

Ah but was it the phone or the carrier...

Both.. In the end I switched because of the 4 because of the antenna problems, kept dropping calls on me. But I'm sure AT&T had a role in there as well..

Much happier with droid + verizon.

[Amber Lamps]

Both.. In the end I switched because of the 4 because of the antenna problems, kept dropping calls on me. But I'm sure AT&T had a role in there as well..

Much happier with droid + verizon.

Yea, I am so tempted by the the iPhone on Sprint. Sprint has its problems but unlimited data attracts me.... especially with my netflix and porn watching habits...:boobs:

[Method]

Yea, I am so tempted by the the iPhone on Sprint. Sprint has its problems but unlimited data attracts me.... especially with my netflix and porn watching habits...:boobs:

That's one of the things that I'm worried about with swapping to a new phone (minus the porn, mostly). I'm currently on a grandfathered unlimited plan and would lose that going to LTE.

[dubbs]

Yea, I am so tempted by the the iPhone on Sprint. Sprint has its problems but unlimited data attracts me.... especially with my netflix and porn watching habits...:boobs:
I guess it depends on the area - sprint here sucks real bad. For example my parents could never talk on their cell phones in their house, they complained like crazy to spint (they get discount through work otherwise would of switched) finally they gave em one of those in home cell towers that goes through your internet about 2 yrs ago and it still has issues but mostly allows them to use it in their house.

Almost everytime I talk to them their phone drops still. No matter where they are. My dad has an evo 4g and she has some other decent one.

[dubbs]

That's one of the things that I'm worried about with swapping to a new phone (minus the porn, mostly). I'm currently on a grandfathered unlimited plan and would lose that going to LTE.

You're on Verizon right? Even if you just upgrade the plan and phone they cap you? WTF?

[Method]

You're on Verizon right? Even if you just upgrade the plan and phone they cap you? WTF?

Yup. The Unltd plan is no longer available and they force you to change the plan when going to LTE. (On a 3G Droid X right now)

Current Unlimited data right now costs me 29.99 - 13% discount. New 2GB LTE plan is 30 bucks and no discount. That's some weak sauce right there.

[Amber Lamps]

I guess it depends on the area - sprint here sucks real bad. For example my parents could never talk on their cell phones in their house, they complained like crazy to spint (they get discount through work otherwise would of switched) finally they gave em one of those in home cell towers that goes through your internet about 2 yrs ago and it still has issues but mostly allows them to use it in their house.

Almost everytime I talk to them their phone drops still. No matter where they are. My dad has an evo 4g and she has some other decent one.

Oh yea, like I said, Sprint is not perfect for sure but I burn a lot of kbs and I would get my ass kicked by Verizon or Att. Around here and in the areas that I travel, Sprint is okay.

[Amber Lamps]

Yup. The Unltd plan is no longer available and they force you to change the plan when going to LTE. (On a 3G Droid X right now)

Current Unlimited data right now costs me 29.99 - 13% discount. New 2GB LTE plan is 30 bucks and no discount. That's some weak sauce right there.

yep, between that and the price.... I'll stick with Sprint for now. Too be honest if I did change, I'd say screw it and drop to MetroPcs, pay $40/month for unlimited talk, text and data. Their coverage isn't great but $40-50(android) TOTAL including tax, fees, etc... Yea their phones aren't cutting edge but money talks and bullshit walks.

[Corey]

yep, between that and the price.... I'll stick with Sprint for now. Too be honest if I did change, I'd say screw it and drop to MetroPcs, pay $40/month for unlimited talk, text and data. Their coverage isn't great but $40-50(android) TOTAL including tax, fees, etc... Yea their phones aren't cutting edge but money talks and bullshit walks.

They're getting much better. I've been thinking of making the same switch. They've expanded the hell out of their coverage area, and there's LTE coverage available as well. When my contract comes up for renewal, I may check them out and see what phones they have available.

[Amber Lamps]

They're getting much better. I've been thinking of making the same switch. They've expanded the hell out of their coverage area, and there's LTE coverage available as well. When my contract comes up for renewal, I may check them out and see what phones they have available.

yea paying $50/month for android total, vs $~100/month would not break my heart at all....:wink:

[marko138]

I guess it depends on the area - sprint here sucks real bad. For example my parents could never talk on their cell phones in their house, they complained like crazy to spint (they get discount through work otherwise would of switched) finally they gave em one of those in home cell towers that goes through your internet about 2 yrs ago and it still has issues but mostly allows them to use it in their house.

Almost everytime I talk to them their phone drops still. No matter where they are. My dad has an evo 4g and she has some other decent one.
I've got Sprint. My calls are dropped CONSTANTLY. Far more than when I had ATT and I hated them. Didn't think it could be any worse...but Sprint is. Half the time people can't get through to me to even give Sprint a chance to drop the call.

[Homeslice]

I had a Sprint aircard, with unlimited data, and last year they sent me this poorly-written email (like an Indian wrote it) saying that I now had a 5GB cap.......But they got owned, they couldn't renig the original terms. I called them and they initially tried to deny sending the email, but said I had to accept the 5GB limit anyway. I said I would terminate if they did, so they left me alone. But a few months later I switched to Verizon anyway :lol: Poor customer service all the way around. Verizon is way faster than Sprint on both 3G or 4G. That is a fact.

[Method]

I had a Sprint aircard, with unlimited data, and last year they sent me this poorly-written email (like an Indian wrote it) saying that I now had a 5GB cap.......But they got owned, they couldn't renig the original terms. I called them and they initially tried to deny sending the email, but said I had to accept the 5GB limit anyway. I said I would terminate if they did, so they left me alone. But a few months later I switched to Verizon anyway :lol: Poor customer service all the way around. Verizon is way faster than Sprint on both 3G or 4G. That is a fact.

Truth. You get what you pay for. I happily pay the minimal premium for Verizon coverage and service. Been with Verizon for about the last 14 years (from back when they were Airtouch Cellular) with a very short stint w/ AT&T. 1 month of AT&T and I happily paid the cancellation fees to go back to Verizon - AT&T sucked that hard.

[Homeslice]

Cancellation fees should be illegal anyway. Account setup is 100% automated, there is no labor involved unless you have it done in one of their stores.

[Method]

Cancellation fees should be illegal anyway. Account setup is 100% automated, there is no labor involved unless you have it done in one of their stores.

They're only there to make up for the discount on the hardware. You get a $99 phone that cost them around $400, they want to make sure you stick around so they can make up that sunk cost in monthly service fees.

[Corey]

They're only there to make up for the discount on the hardware. You get a $99 phone that cost them around $400, they want to make sure you stick around so they can make up that sunk cost in monthly service fees.

Then why aren't the plans cheaper if you buy a phone that's not unsubsidized? If I bought an unsubsidized phone through Verizon, the cost of my plan wouldn't be lowered. I think T-Mobile was the only one who had plans that reflected whether you got a discounted phone or not, and they may have dropped that too.

[EpyonXero]

Yup. The Unltd plan is no longer available and they force you to change the plan when going to LTE. (On a 3G Droid X right now)

Current Unlimited data right now costs me 29.99 - 13% discount. New 2GB LTE plan is 30 bucks and no discount. That's some weak sauce right there.

Not true, if you still have your unlimited plan you can upgrade and get unlimited LTE as well. I upgraded from the Droid 1 to the Bionic and I still have my same plan.

[Trip]

Not true, if you still have your unlimited plan you can upgrade and get unlimited LTE as well. I upgraded from the Droid 1 to the Bionic and I still have my same plan.

Yep, he got lied to....

[Method]

Then why aren't the plans cheaper if you buy a phone that's not unsubsidized? If I bought an unsubsidized phone through Verizon, the cost of my plan wouldn't be lowered. I think T-Mobile was the only one who had plans that reflected whether you got a discounted phone or not, and they may have dropped that too.

My understanding is that it's not about the price of the plans, but a contract. It's the length of your engagement w/ the provider that makes up for the cost.

Yep, he got lied to....

You guys sure about that? Looking online, I could choose between my existing Unlimited 3g plan, and the other 3 data capped plans were labeled LTE. If that's actually the case, then that's badass considering the existing unlimited plan is less than the 2GB capped plan.

[Rangerscott]

Now my vid recorder freezes up and if it is able to record the vid file is corrupt even fully stopping.

[Trip]

You guys sure about that? Looking online, I could choose between my existing Unlimited 3g plan, and the other 3 data capped plans were labeled LTE. If that's actually the case, then that's badass considering the existing unlimited plan is less than the 2GB capped plan.

Mine doesn't say anything about 3G or LTE when I try to upgrade, but shows all the 4 plans. It says if you go to the capped plans, you can't change back.

[Method]

Mine doesn't say anything about 3G or LTE when I try to upgrade, but shows all the 4 plans. It says if you go to the capped plans, you can't change back.

Just got off the phone w/ Verizon - they verified that if you currently have an Unlimited plan, you stay grandfathered in. Whew!

[Homeslice]

Now my vid recorder freezes up and if it is able to record the vid file is corrupt even fully stopping.

Android quality. :rockwoot:

[Porkchop]

Odd - I have an X and have loved it - no issues. It's been bulletproof.

I had mine since launch morning. Had no problems until 2 weeks ago. The problems are bad enough that Verizon is sending me a new phone now.

Mine's done that a few times with the camera. Now my vid recorder freezes up and if it is able to record the vid file is corrupt even fully stopping.

Ok, so I went to the OSU/Wisconsin game last night. Took a few pictures and videos here and there. When it came down to the final few minutes and I despirately wanted to get some good pictures and video, the phone decided to take a giant shit on me. When I would try to pull up the camera, half of the time the camera would fail to initalize, the other half it would load and then freeze. Occationally I could get the video camera to load and I got a few videos taken. Eventually it got bad enough that even the video camera would just go black once I hit record. I got home this morning and decided to look at all the pictures and videos I did get to take. About 95% of the files were corrupt. I was really about ready to throw the fucking thing off the third deck at the 'Shoe and watch it shatter into a million pieces.

I had no problem with the hardware on my Droid X. It was a solid piece of phone that was damn near indestructable. I've dropped that thing a bunch of times, and besides the batter door popping off, it kept running without problem. All of my problems came after the software update. They just don't have it down. I had a few problems with the original Droid going from Eclair to Froyo that were eventually sorted, but going from Froyo to Gingerbread on the Droid X made the phone completely unusable. The RAZR looks really nice, and I have faith in the hardware, but the idea of sweating through the upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS two or three months into ownership and hoping that the phone isn't turned to shit because of issues with Blur will guarantee that I don't fuck with the RAZR, or any skinned version of Android for that matter. The Galaxy Nexus with a clean, unskinned, vanilla version of ICS is far more appealing and presents far less bullshit to deal with related to software updates.

I am almost ready to flash the phone back to Froyo and then root it again. I was happier when it was rooted anyway.

[dubbs]

Just got off the phone w/ Verizon - they verified that if you currently have an Unlimited plan, you stay grandfathered in. Whew!

Thanks for following up, I was pretty sure if you had unlimited you stayed grandfathered in. I'm due for an upgrade in March hopefully they have 1.5Ghz quad cores by then.. haha.

[Rangerscott]

There goes sparatic restart no.8 since update.


*edit*

Just did a reset (10:40pm CST). Gonna see how she does now.

[Rangerscott]

I took out the mem card and the camera didnt freeze up. I guess the update fucked it up.

[Rangerscott]

Got the HTC Rezound for $50. Was wanting the Razr Maxx but Im done with motorola and their glitchy ass phones.

[Apoc]

Got the HTC Rezound for $50. Was wanting the Razr Maxx but Im done with motorola and their glitchy ass phones.

My sister has a Razr Maxx, and I like it a lot. It has some of the best build quality i've seen in the android market, and seems to be fast, stable, and reliable. When I got my iPhone it was between the Razr Maxx and the 4S.

[Rangerscott]

Motorola can suck my dick.

If course I see android like I see linux. Very cool, easy to use, and lots of variety BUT there s lack of hardware support aka drivers. I wouldnt doubt it if some of these smart phones are having problems because the hardware and software arent getting along.

[Trip]

A lot of the issues I see is the stupid front ends they put on them. If they used a vanilla rom and told Verizon/AT&T/Sprint to suck their ass with bloatware, the phones would be a lot better. That's what Apple does. They tell the phone companies to go fuck themselves when it comes to updates and bloatware and they don't have these silly front end software that motorola/HTC/Samsung add on top of Android.

[Rangerscott]

I had a HTC touch pro 1 and you could disable their cover up software and go vanilla but I never had a problem so I left it on the flashy version. Will see if I can do the same on the rezound. I had no problem with HTC before. I just got sucked into the "Droid is the future phone" crap.

[Rangerscott]

I got a new otter box for Droid 3 if anyone is interested.

[Rangerscott]

http://www.all4cellular.com/product/htc-evo-4g-extended-battery-and-battery-door-black.html?siteID=PvTvb1zzm2o-twBY7dk7sWkb2B_Ufsm0MA&siteID=PvTvb1zzm2o-DDMcHsgy3NREDCJMyksPuw

[Porkchop]

Surprisingly, my Droid X has run almost flawlessly for a long time now. *knocks on wood* But the X ran a pretty vanilla android anyway, right???

I told myself I would not go back to Motorola for my next phone. After the camera and memory problems I've had, and seen the massive fuckfest that was the Bionic. Who knows what will be available by July/August though....

[Homeslice]

http://www.all4cellular.com/product/htc-evo-4g-extended-battery-and-battery-door-black.html?siteID=PvTvb1zzm2o-twBY7dk7sWkb2B_Ufsm0MA&siteID=PvTvb1zzm2o-DDMcHsgy3NREDCJMyksPuw

people still use those?

[Corey]

I'm up for an upgrade. Actually, I was up for an upgrade in April, I just didn't know about it until this week. I've been checking out some phones and the only thing that really stands out is the HTC One X and the Nokia Lumina 900. Both are really nice phones, but neither are on Verizon. I haven't figured out what I'm doing, so I'll keep doing nothing.

[Rangerscott]

Surprisingly, my Droid X has run almost flawlessly for a long time now. *knocks on wood* But the X ran a pretty vanilla android anyway, right???

I told myself I would not go back to Motorola for my next phone. After the camera and memory problems I've had, and seen the massive fuckfest that was the Bionic. Who knows what will be available by July/August though....

The droid X is my last motorola phone. PIECE O SHIT.

people still use those?

Not every one upgrades all the time or buys an expensive phone at every upgrade.

[Homeslice]

I'm up for an upgrade. Actually, I was up for an upgrade in April, I just didn't know about it until this week. I've been checking out some phones and the only thing that really stands out is the HTC One X and the Nokia Lumina 900. Both are really nice phones, but neither are on Verizon. I haven't figured out what I'm doing, so I'll keep doing nothing.
The Lumina is supposed to have very good voice quality, being a Nokia...........But it's got Windows 7.5 instead of the upcoming 8.........and its screen resolution is lower than an iPhone at the same time that its screen is larger.....not a good combination.

[Homeslice]

Not every one upgrades all the time or buys an expensive phone at every upgrade.

If all you're doing is upgrading & always staying in contract, there are tons of superior phones these days for only $49-99.

I always liked the stand on the Evo, but thought that its camera/video functionality sucked

[Corey]

The Lumina is supposed to have very good voice quality, being a Nokia...........But it's got Windows 7.5 instead of the upcoming 8.........and its screen resolution is lower than an iPhone at the same time that its screen is larger.....not a good combination.

Windows 7.5 doesn't bother me. I rather like it, from the brief time I've played around with it. My problem with the Windows phones is still the app selection. It's gotten better since last I looked, but I'd have to really look to see if there are things that I would like to have or some equivalent available. I didn't know about the resolution thing. I think I'd have to see it in person though and see how the programs are using the available resolution. It's almost a non-issue. The only Windows phone on Verizon is still the ok Trophy, and I'm not wasting an upgrade on that.

[dubbs]

Ditched verizon and the droid x for the Samsung Galaxy Note on AT&T. Phone is awesome and the 4g speeds are nice.. No LTE near me tho..

[Homeslice]

Ditched verizon and the droid x for the Samsung Galaxy Note on AT&T. Phone is awesome and the 4g speeds are nice.. No LTE near me tho..

How do you know 4G is nice then :lol:

[dubbs]

How do you know 4G is nice then :lol:
Because there's 4G and 4G LTE.

[Homeslice]

Windows 7.5 doesn't bother me. I rather like it, from the brief time I've played around with it. My problem with the Windows phones is still the app selection. It's gotten better since last I looked, but I'd have to really look to see if there are things that I would like to have or some equivalent available. I didn't know about the resolution thing. I think I'd have to see it in person though and see how the programs are using the available resolution. It's almost a non-issue. The only Windows phone on Verizon is still the ok Trophy, and I'm not wasting an upgrade on that.

Awhile ago they hit 50,000 apps, might be more now.

Because there's 4G and 4G LTE.

ATT uses LTE now

[Homeslice]

On another note, has anyone see the Galaxy S3 yet? All the hype sounds nice, but if it's as thin and fragile-feeling as the older Galaxys, I'll pass.

[dubbs]

Awhile ago they hit 50,000 apps, might be more now.



ATT uses LTE now


Really? Had no idea.. :wtfru:

Their 4G works in a lot more areas than their LTE does. Their 4G is more like 3G+. Closest LTE area is NYC. 80 miles away.

[Trip]

ATT uses LTE now

Their LTE network is still pretty shitty.

[Corey]

Took a look at the Verizon selection of phones. What a disappointment. Aside from the fact that all the Verizon phones were non-functional dummy units, not a single one stood out as a must have. I couldn't give a shit about the Galaxy Nexus if I tried. The RAZR Maxx looks like shit, and whatever the hell that Samsung is with the slide out keyboard, I'll pass. Samsung in general is a complete pass. The shit UI they put on it is a deal killer.

I peeked at the AT&T selection as well. They had 6 Galaxy Notes all hooked up and running. That is a big motherfucking phone/tablet/thing. I almost really like it. The HTC One X is a really nice looking phone. It was also a dummy unit, but the look and physical feel of the phone was very nice. The specs are nice too. If it were on Verizon, I'd have probably walked out with a new phone. Unfortunately, Verizon has stated that they're not getting the HTC One series of phones, instead opting for another shitty iteration of the Incredible. Fuck that. The other surprise was a fully functioning Lumia 900. That's a damn sharp phone. Really nice, solid construction, super quick and ultra smooth UI, and just really well done. I think, after playing around with it for a while, I could easily live with one of the newer Windows phones. They've done a damn fine job of making it solid phone. I would have loved to have compared it to ICS on the Galaxy Nexus to see how they match up, but against Gingerbread, I'd much rather have the Windows Phone 7.5 operating system.

Again, though, not available on Verizon. They're dick and balls deep in their own branded Android shit that's starting to get dull and tedious. So, as of now, I'm staying with the iPhone 4.

[Homeslice]

Took a look at the Verizon selection of phones. What a disappointment. Aside from the fact that all the Verizon phones were non-functional dummy units, not a single one stood out as a must have. I couldn't give a shit about the Galaxy Nexus if I tried. The RAZR Maxx looks like shit, and whatever the hell that Samsung is with the slide out keyboard, I'll pass. Samsung in general is a complete pass. The shit UI they put on it is a deal killer.

I peeked at the AT&T selection as well. They had 6 Galaxy Notes all hooked up and running. That is a big motherfucking phone/tablet/thing. I almost really like it. The HTC One X is a really nice looking phone. It was also a dummy unit, but the look and physical feel of the phone was very nice. The specs are nice too. If it were on Verizon, I'd have probably walked out with a new phone. Unfortunately, Verizon has stated that they're not getting the HTC One series of phones, instead opting for another shitty iteration of the Incredible. Fuck that. The other surprise was a fully functioning Lumia 900. That's a damn sharp phone. Really nice, solid construction, super quick and ultra smooth UI, and just really well done. I think, after playing around with it for a while, I could easily live with one of the newer Windows phones. They've done a damn fine job of making it solid phone. I would have loved to have compared it to ICS on the Galaxy Nexus to see how they match up, but against Gingerbread, I'd much rather have the Windows Phone 7.5 operating system.

Again, though, not available on Verizon. They're dick and balls deep in their own branded Android shit that's starting to get dull and tedious. So, as of now, I'm staying with the iPhone 4.

Did you browse any with the Lumina? I heard someone talk about how the layout wasn't good for browsing forums.

[Corey]

Did you browse any with the Lumina? I heard someone talk about how the layout wasn't good for browsing forums.

I didn't try out any forums, but I did try the browser. It seems to be quite competent on the stuff I would normally go to. I don't generally go to any forums on my phone, so I can't comment on how it would handle them. Otherwise, I was really impressed with both the Lumia and WP7.5. It's gotten a good deal of polish in the last year or so. I still don't get why there's still a slight stutter on screen transitions and some scrolling on Android phones. It stands out far more to me now after using the iPhone and seeing Windows handle the same thing without any lag. There's gotta be something in the actual coding, because the phones definitely have the hardware to keep things smooth.

[Homeslice]

I didn't try out any forums, but I did try the browser. It seems to be quite competent on the stuff I would normally go to. I don't generally go to any forums on my phone, so I can't comment on how it would handle them. Otherwise, I was really impressed with both the Lumia and WP7.5. It's gotten a good deal of polish in the last year or so. I still don't get why there's still a slight stutter on screen transitions and some scrolling on Android phones. It stands out far more to me now after using the iPhone and seeing Windows handle the same thing without any lag. There's gotta be something in the actual coding, because the phones definitely have the hardware to keep things smooth.

Here is the review I was talking about.........The browsing complaint was due to the screen's low resolution, which they say makes small font hard to read.

Then they go on to say that its screen is the "most beautiful".......I'm not sure how those two statements co-exist :?:

[Corey]

Here is the review I was talking about.........The browsing complaint was due to the screen's low resolution, which they say makes small font hard to read.

Then they go on to say that its screen is the "most beautiful".......I'm not sure how those two statements co-exist :?:

I'll try and get another hands on with it some time this week and check it out. I don't really recall any of the fonts being difficult to read, but it wasn't something I was focusing my attention as much as the general use of the browser and the UI elements. It has a gorgeous screen on it from what I've seen, and the transitions from the home screen to apps and even between different parts of the application are incredibly smooth. The design on some of the apps like the native mail client were really nice, though I've been partial to the Zune type font they've been using, far more than Helvetica and Arial.

Amazon currently has the Galaxy Nexus for a penny. That makes it a little more interesting, but I can't help but feel that it's about a month or two away from feeling annoyingly dated.

[Rangerscott]

I know theres an app to show tv antennas, but what about cell towers? I live in a very flat area awith no trees and verizons data coverage sucks ass.

[EpyonXero]

I know theres an app to show tv antennas, but what about cell towers? I live in a very flat area awith no trees and verizons data coverage sucks ass.

Try Open Signal.

[Rangerscott]

Coyple days ago facebook was acting up so I uninstalled all updates then it started a download that hasnt downloaded anything. Its been in the notification bar for days now. Says facebook (build 144481). Ive already updated facebook and its still there. I have no clue to how to remove it.

*edit*

Nevermind. Its jsut facebook being facebook.

http://www.androidcentral.com/facebook-updating-their-android-app-outside-google-play-some-users

[Rangerscott]

Is there a way to vieew your history in dolphin? I found a car on CC and forgot to bookmark it. Its driving me crazy not being able to find it now and Im sure I was search my city.

[derf]

Coyple days ago facebook was acting up so I uninstalled all updates then it started a download that hasnt downloaded anything. Its been in the notification bar for days now. Says facebook (build 144481). Ive already updated facebook and its still there. I have no clue to how to remove it.

*edit*

Nevermind. Its jsut facebook being facebook.

http://www.androidcentral.com/facebook-updating-their-android-app-outside-google-play-some-users

It just about bricked my phone. It spent a day and a half trying to update and killed my battery after 4 or 5 hours. I could not figure out how to stop it, and if I reset the phone it would just start downloading again. When I finally figured out how to stop it from downloading, my google play would not open, facebook, keyboard, chrome, dolphin and a handful other programs all stopped. The phone was able to receive incoming calls and send text typed by voice but nothing else.

I had to do a factory reset, and now all is good again.

[Rangerscott]

Its been two weeks and still here.

[Rangerscott]

Finally got Fo G here. Boot time.

Still got the stupid facebook downloader

[EpyonXero]

Just got Jelly Bean pushed to my Bionic, way smoother UI than the previous verson and Google Now is pretty nice. I like it.

[pauldun170]

For the first time ever, I'm actually on the hype train for a phone.
Patiently waiting for Samsung S4 to hit verizon.

Time to retire the HTC Incredible.

[Rangerscott]

I cant retire my phone or I lose my unlimited data plan.

[EpyonXero]

For the first time ever, I'm actually on the hype train for a phone.
Patiently waiting for Samsung S4 to hit verizon.

Time to retire the HTC Incredible.

I just got a used Galaxy Note 2 from eBay and Ive only had it about half a day but its pretty awesome so far. Way faster and smoother than my Droid Bionic and a ton more features even after the JB update. I spent all last week in a training class where the only thing I had to keep myself entertained was my old phone which failed miserably so i decided it was time to upgrade.

I cant retire my phone or I lose my unlimited data plan.

Im in the same boat. I cant get a discounted upgrade from Verizon so I bought a used one from a third party. You have to pay full price but Verizon recently announced that they will be letting people buy a device for the retail price and adding the price to your monthly bill like a payment plan which is another option.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/22/verizons-device-payment-plan-can-be-used-as-a-way-to-keep-unlimited-data/

[Rangerscott]

Hmmm. I was told by a verizon help lady that has the same plane as mine that even if u pay full price they still cancel your unlimited.

[Trip]

Hmmm. I was told by a verizon help lady that has the same plane as mine that even if u pay full price they still cancel your unlimited.

False, you can pay full price or buy used and keep your unlimited. As long as you don't change your contract, you keep unlimited. I have changed my phone several times since they got rid of unlimited.

[Rangerscott]

Good to know.

[EpyonXero]

Hmmm. I was told by a verizon help lady that has the same plane as mine that even if u pay full price they still cancel your unlimited.

Its no different than if you had a defective phone and Verizon sent you a replacement, you swap your SIM card to the new one and then activate the phones ID number and nothing changed on your plan. Im my case my old Bionic has the normal sized SIM card and the Note 2 used the micro SIM card so I had to go to the Verizon store and ask them for a new SIM. They gave me the new SIM and activated the phone for free. You can call them and have the new card mailed to you.

[pauldun170]

Galaxy S4 officially pre-ordered...

[Porkchop]

Just got Jelly Bean pushed to my Bionic, way smoother UI than the previous verson and Google Now is pretty nice. I like it.

WTH??? My Bionic hasn't received JB yet... :scratch:

[EpyonXero]

Galaxy S4 officially pre-ordered...

Im using my first Galaxy phone after two Droids and Im very impressed with the speed and smoothness from this phone.

WTH??? My Bionic hasn't received JB yet... :scratch:

Did you check for an update in the setting menu? You can also manually install it

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/15/droid-bionic-jelly-bean-update-available-for-download-and-manual-install/

[Porkchop]

Im using my first Galaxy phone after two Droids and Im very impressed with the speed and smoothness from this phone.



Did you check for an update in the setting menu? You can also manually install it

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/15/droid-bionic-jelly-bean-update-available-for-download-and-manual-install/

I did, it didn't go the first time, but it found it this afternoon. Now running JB! :dthumb:

[marko138]

All JB did was crush my battery life.

[Rangerscott]

Did a reset to get rid of facebooks stupid update. I should write them a dirty letter.

[Porkchop]

All JB did was crush my battery life.

Believe it or not, mine has lasted longer today.... I'm usually plugging it in by 11pm or so. I still have half a battery. :idk:

[Rangerscott]

Im still stuck with 4.0.3

[marko138]

Believe it or not, mine has lasted longer today.... I'm usually plugging it in by 11pm or so. I still have half a battery. :idk:

My battery life was awesome before I got JB, now it sucks. I uninstalled Google Now, which helped, but it still sucks.

[Trip]

My battery life was awesome before I got JB, now it sucks. I uninstalled Google Now, which helped, but it still sucks.

I am surprised you haven't just gone to iphone 5 already.

[marko138]

I am surprised you haven't just gone to iphone 5 already.
It's next. I keep saying I'm done with Android. This time (I think) I mean it. My wife has the iphone 4. I like it. But I also don't like it.

[Trip]

It's next. I keep saying I'm done with Android. This time (I think) I mean it. My wife has the iphone 4. I like it. But I also don't like it.

Since they added google now and google maps, it's a lot better. The phone is very reliable. I can't remember the last time I had to do a reboot, it's been months. It was almost a daily thing with my gnex. I am still on iOS6.1.2, so I am jailbroken which really makes a difference. It's much better than a unjailbroken iphone, you can get a lot of the things you enjoy on Android that way. Battery is a tie... It's been a push for me really though because I definitely miss the much larger screen of the gnex. I do enjoy the airplay setup I have home wide now though with my airport expresses controlling speakers throughout the house and the apple TVs I have on the main TVs that I can control with my phone/wifes phone/ipad.

[Rangerscott]

Anyone wanna let me use their phone upgrade for verizon? My rezound is taking a dump and Im on a grandfathered unlimited plan.

On a serious note, any of you rich pricks wanna sell me a galaxy S3 for cheap?

[Homeslice]

Fuck Samdung. The HTC One is what I'd get if I wanted a new android phone.

[pauldun170]

Fuck Samdung. The HTC One is what I'd get if I wanted a new android phone.

What exactly is wrong with Samsung?

[Rangerscott]

Theyre Korean.

[Homeslice]

What exactly is wrong with Samsung?

Cheap-feeling IMO, with their rounded plastic backs.

[pauldun170]

Cheap-feeling IMO, with their rounded plastic backs.

So its the preference thing.
I think they are just fine but I'm easy to please.