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Oh I totally agree as I stated with my recent expierence. The towing comp F'ed up.
You are totally wrong, you damn al qaeda loving nazi communist scientologist!
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racedoll
09-18-2009, 05:27 PM
Glad to hear something finally went your way!
Gas Man
09-18-2009, 11:07 PM
You are totally wrong, you damn al qaeda loving nazi communist scientologist!
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You going to pay for that in a couple more weeks! FOUCKER!
pay! ha! I aint paying for shit
So the drama continues, I just got a letter from their lawyer saying that they will offer me $500 to settle it or they are appealing it. Fuck I wanna burn this place down.
you gotta be kidding me...
Amber Lamps
09-26-2009, 07:05 PM
Tell them you'll take $1,000 and be done with it. I believe that will cover your expenses, the tow company obviously doesn't deserve to pay for your court costs from your tickets.:idk: As I remember it, you paid less than that to fix your bike so it's a win. To expect the tow company to pay for your tickets is ludicrous. IMHO.
Tell them you'll take $1,000 and be done with it. I believe that will cover your expenses, the tow company obviously doesn't deserve to pay for your court costs from your tickets.:idk: As I remember it, you paid less than that to fix your bike so it's a win. To expect the tow company to pay for your tickets is ludicrous. IMHO.
What I asked for was the cost of repairs as quoted by a shop. The estimates I got were all close to $3k. The judge awarded me 1/2 of that. They then offered 1/6 the cost of the quote for the repairs. What I really wished for was for thier insurance info. Right now they are trying to scare me into minimizing their losses.
Amber Lamps
09-26-2009, 09:52 PM
What I asked for was the cost of repairs as quoted by a shop. The estimates I got were all close to $3k. The judge awarded me 1/2 of that. They then offered 1/6 the cost of the quote for the repairs. What I really wished for was for thier insurance info. Right now they are trying to scare me into minimizing their losses.
Yea and in true Jew fashion, you're trying to get more from them than it cost to fix your bike!:lol: Of course it's all up to you but $1,000 in the hand is better than waiting another 2 or 3 months imho. I'm sure that you will win an appeal but that's more time and effort on your part.:idk: If you really wanted to get paid for the damage you would have claimed the accident to your insurance company and then they would have gone after the towing company. Unless you don't have full coverage...:idk:
Hey, I'd love to see you get over on these assholes but it's like you EXPECT to get more than you deserve/need, The bottom line is that you did whatever it was that caused the officer to pull you over and you didn't have the proper paperwork. Those expenses are yours and yours alone. It cost you $400-500 to fix the damage they did and you bought another front wheel to bring it to $600. If you get $1,000 out of them, you are still ahead imho. In your own estimation, you came out "ahead" in your traffic court deal.
Regardless of what you do, I honestly wish you the best of luck!
No, I dont have full coverage, and my insurance company did try to get their insurance info from them, but they wouldnt give it to them.
Actually I'm more interested in punishing them because it was more than just my bike that was damaged. Daves bike was damaged, and when we first showed them the damage we were threatened and treated like shit and accused of trying to claim damage that was already there.
If you search hard enough you can find plenty of cases where tow companies damage vehicles and don't own up to the damage forcing people to take them to court. Most people don't have the pictures that I have so they can't do much legally. I did find one case where the guy sued, won, then the tow company appealed lost their appeal, and still refused to pay the guy. Eventually he had a lien placed on the business, eventually the guy had the business shut down.
Not only that, the $500 doesnt nearly cover the cost of fixing the bike and court cost from suing to repair it. It cost $150 to sue, plus the tolls there and back, parking, plus gas there and back, add all that in and it cost me almost $800.
Amber Lamps
09-26-2009, 11:02 PM
No, I dont have full coverage, and my insurance company did try to get their insurance info from them, but they wouldnt give it to them.
Actually I'm more interested in punishing them because it was more than just my bike that was damaged. Daves bike was damaged, and when we first showed them the damage we were threatened and treated like shit and accused of trying to claim damage that was already there.
If you search hard enough you can find plenty of cases where tow companies damage vehicles and don't own up to the damage forcing people to take them to court. Most people don't have the pictures that I have so they can't do much legally. I did find one case where the guy sued, won, then the tow company appealed lost their appeal, and still refused to pay the guy. Eventually he had a lien placed on the business, eventually the guy had the business shut down.
Not only that, the $500 doesnt nearly cover the cost of fixing the bike and court cost from suing to repair it. It cost $150 to sue, plus the tolls there and back, parking, plus gas there and back, add all that in and it cost me almost $800.
Ummm... I said settle for $1,000....:lol: Btw you mentioned Dave's bike as being part of your motivation... does that mean you're gonna give him part of the money?:lol: Besides, you're kinda making my case in a way, you could fight and fight for more money and come away with nothing. If you get $1,000 out of these guys with no further effort...WIN!
No but i offered to pay for his hotel bill for the NE rally, and I helped him straighten out his front and rear wheel.
I'm prolly gonna use the $$$ to put a new roof on the house
No but i offered to pay for his hotel bill for the NE rally, and I helped him straighten out his front and rear wheel.
I'm prolly gonna use the $$$ to put a new roof on the house
its true he did, i passed however.
im still not convinced we did anything worthy of being pulled. pretty sure i saw our bike hating friend sitting outside my train station the other night. took...quite an effort not to say anything
Amber Lamps
09-26-2009, 11:49 PM
its true he did, i passed however.
im still not convinced we did anything worthy of being pulled. pretty sure i saw our bike hating friend sitting outside my train station the other night. took...quite an effort not to say anything
Oh I don't know but you all know that technically the cops can pull you over without any reason and ask you for your license, right? You have to recognize that not having your shit together was not the cop's fault right? Plus it may have contributed to his harshness with you. I've been pulled over several times and I get out all of my paperwork and the cop lets me go.:idk: I'm sure that you realize that if all of your shit would have been straight, things could have gone differently.:idk:
Oh I don't know but you all know that technically the cops can pull you over without any reason and ask you for your license, right? You have to recognize that not having your shit together was not the cop's fault right? Plus it may have contributed to his harshness with you. I've been pulled over several times and I get out all of my paperwork and the cop lets me go.:idk: I'm sure that you realize that if all of your shit would have been straight, things could have gone differently.:idk:
Nobody is arguing with you on the reason we got towed int the first place. BUT the cop was a dick from the get go, before either of us said anything, after we had removed our helmets, when the cop first walked up to us he started to yell at us. Without us saying anything he had an attitude, and even after neither of us did anything but comply with everything he said he gave us attitude, talking about motorcycles flying off bridges and people plummeting to their death. And generally cops around here are dicks, and I'm pretty sure they need a reason to pull you over.
Gas Man
09-27-2009, 11:54 PM
Fuck the tow company derf. Tell their lawyer to eat a bag of dicks. If they appeal you'll still win.
And Tigger I look at the estimate of repairs the ultimate legal paper. If derf repairs it for less by using used parts and shit. That is his call, but he still deserves the full quoted shop repair cost.
Fuck the tow company derf. Tell their lawyer to eat a bag of dicks. If they appeal you'll still win.
And Tigger I look at the estimate of repairs the ultimate legal paper. If derf repairs it for less by using used parts and shit. That is his call, but he still deserves the full quoted shop repair cost.
I talked to my lawyer today, and he said it could take 9 months to 2 years to go through the appeals process. He also said that he is going to find out the reason for an appeal from the looks of it there is nothing that I did wrong, but if there is a real reason for the appeal I may be better just quitting now. Basically this is just a power play on their part to see if they can wait me out
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 12:09 AM
I talked to my lawyer today, and he said it could take 9 months to 2 years to go through the appeals process
I know and it's all I'm trying to say... that and go get full coverage, keep your shit together and be more careful where you decide to fuck around.
Gas Man
09-28-2009, 12:12 AM
I would let it drag out over principle. For me that would make me go thru what ever appeals I have to.
Honestly though... that's how the real big suits always go. At least you arent major majorly put out.
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 12:19 AM
Fuck the tow company derf. Tell their lawyer to eat a bag of dicks. If they appeal you'll still win.
And Tigger I look at the estimate of repairs the ultimate legal paper. If derf repairs it for less by using used parts and shit. That is his call, but he still deserves the full quoted shop repair cost.
When I hit a deer last year, the bike shop made up a quote for over $9,000 to fix my bike, I repaired it for less than $2,000. If he had full coverage he would have got the inflated amount. He didn't. I'm not saying that the towing company doesn't owe him for damaging his bike. I'm saying that if he gets enough money to cover the ACTUAL repair costs, he'll be doing pretty damn good imho.
I know and it's all I'm trying to say... that and go get full coverage, keep your shit together and be more careful where you decide to fuck around.
Full coverage would cost me 1/3 the cost of the bike per year. Instead i use the extra $$$ to open a separate savings account for a new bike
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 12:49 AM
Full coverage would cost me 1/3 the cost of the bike per year. Instead i use the extra $$$ to open a separate savings account for a new bike
Well take that money and fix your bike!:lol: Um Fred why would your insurance be so high? Is it because you have tickets, hmmm?...:lol: Listen, I'm mostly just fucking with you but I honestly think you should counter for a grand, take the money and run! Gas Man has the where with all to appeal and ride it out. Not all of us have his kind of money. Shit, I couldn't even afford his dog!!!:lol: You got an entire body kit, tank and wheel for $600 which also repaired the damage that you did to the bike earlier this year. If you can recover that money and put a couple bucks in your pocket... WIN!!! imho.
Well take that money and fix your bike!:lol: Um Fred why would your insurance be so high? Is it because you have tickets, hmmm?...:lol: Listen, I'm mostly just fucking with you but I honestly think you should counter for a grand, take the money and run! Gas Man has the where with all to appeal and ride it out. Not all of us have his kind of money. Shit, I couldn't even afford his dog!!!:lol: You got an entire body kit, tank and wheel for $600 which also repaired the damage that you did to the bike earlier this year. If you can recover that money and put a couple bucks in your pocket... WIN!!! imho.
No thats without any tix added in. If you look at my driving record (as of today) it is fairly clean, with no moving violations. I just looked it up on geico and full coverage would cost me $1100/yr, primary owner, only rider, garage kept, 6+ yrs exp, MSF course. Rider quoted me $75 less earlier this year. Its just my area, I've looked at some other zip codes around here and the price goes up if I head north or south closer to the cities.
I am gonna counter for $1k plus court cost, anything less I'll stick it out, and as an added bonus I figure that the lawyer already cost the tow company almost a grand.
dReWpY
09-28-2009, 04:22 AM
i got knocked over by a cop last year and they forked over 5k in repair costs, I fixed my mirror and been riding ever since
take it to them
Kerry_129
09-28-2009, 05:36 AM
Hey Drewpy, you weren't the guy that got knocked off the bike in the infamous THP video where he mistook the 2-up couple for the bikes running from him, were you? (how's that for a run-on... :lol:)
Fred - glad the charges/points thing worked out OK for you other than the financial reaming. Counteroffer of $1000 was exactly what I thought when you posted their $500 offer. Continuing to fight & drag it out could could turn into jousting a windmill - lots of additional time & effort with little payback and possibly nothing in the end. :shrug: Good luck w/ the c'offer!
Kaneman
09-28-2009, 09:29 AM
Fuck the cops who needlessly pulled you over in under the false guise of public safety when you were not riding in a reckless manner.
And fuck the tow company that probably got a good laugh dropping your bikes off the back of their flatbed then resorting to threats and extremely unethical behavior.
Send them a letter with a counteroffer of $3,000 and as a sign of good will include a rotten goat cock sandwich on rye.
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 01:43 PM
No thats without any tix added in. If you look at my driving record (as of today) it is fairly clean, with no moving violations. I just looked it up on geico and full coverage would cost me $1100/yr, primary owner, only rider, garage kept, 6+ yrs exp, MSF course. Rider quoted me $75 less earlier this year. Its just my area, I've looked at some other zip codes around here and the price goes up if I head north or south closer to the cities.
I am gonna counter for $1k plus court cost, anything less I'll stick it out, and as an added bonus I figure that the lawyer already cost the tow company almost a grand.
Wow that's high! I'm ASSuming that you have tried State Farm....FWIW State Farm is typically the lowest... give them a call, bro.
Your counter sounds like a good plan to me, that makes it $1,150 right? If they are smart, they'll settle. The appeal will cost them more than that.
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 01:47 PM
Fuck the cops who needlessly pulled you over in under the false guise of public safety when you were not riding in a reckless manner.
And fuck the tow company that probably got a good laugh dropping your bikes off the back of their flatbed then resorting to threats and extremely unethical behavior.
Send them a letter with a counteroffer of $3,000 and as a sign of good will include a rotten goat cock sandwich on rye.
:lol::lol::lol:
Devil's Advocate Here,
1. They admit to speeding.
2. Their paperwork was fucked up.
3. He admits to harassing customers as they entered the business.
4. Goat cock is very expensive and would ad to his "court costs".
Amber Lamps
09-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Hey Drewpy, you weren't the guy that got knocked off the bike in the infamous THP video where he mistook the 2-up couple for the bikes running from him, were you? (how's that for a run-on... :lol:)
Fred - glad the charges/points thing worked out OK for you other than the financial reaming. Counteroffer of $1000 was exactly what I thought when you posted their $500 offer. Continuing to fight & drag it out could could turn into jousting a windmill - lots of additional time & effort with little payback and possibly nothing in the end. :shrug: Good luck w/ the c'offer!
That's all I'm trying to say...
:lol::lol::lol:
Devil's Advocate Here,
1. They admit to speeding.
2. Their paperwork was fucked up.
3. He admits to harassing customers as they entered the business.
4. Goat cock is very expensive and would ad to his "court costs".
1. I wasnt going as fast as the ticket I got
2. Yep on this one
3. Never harrassed their customers, I told them to look over their shit before they picked it up after we saw the damage to our stuff.
4. Are you an expert at this goat cock?
Kaneman, I would only ever get $1500 now because thats what the judge awarded me. However I would be well within my rights to get an old clunker, register it and park it outside their place of bussiness with some advice on how to sue and win for their customers written on the side of it. I'm seriously contemplating it. I have an extra focus sitting in my driveway thats looking for a reason no to get scrapped
Kaneman
09-28-2009, 06:00 PM
Fuck it, $15,000 counteroffer.
Fuck it, $15,000 counteroffer.
Screw that, eleventy billion
dReWpY
09-30-2009, 07:28 PM
Hey Drewpy, you weren't the guy that got knocked off the bike in the infamous THP video where he mistook the 2-up couple for the bikes running from him, were you? (how's that for a run-on... :lol:)
Fred - glad the charges/points thing worked out OK for you other than the financial reaming. Counteroffer of $1000 was exactly what I thought when you posted their $500 offer. Continuing to fight & drag it out could could turn into jousting a windmill - lots of additional time & effort with little payback and possibly nothing in the end. :shrug: Good luck w/ the c'offer!
no, I was the guy that had a twra field officers truck run my bike over pulling out of a parking spot at the home offcie
Yeh, just another update. They appealed, so we get to go to court all over again
njchopper87
11-01-2009, 10:41 PM
bastards..
tommymac
11-02-2009, 12:56 AM
They will prolly try to drag i tout to either frustrate you to give up or to where its not wrth the time to pursue it :(
Tom
They will prolly try to drag i tout to either frustrate you to give up or to where its not wrth the time to pursue it :(
Tom
Yeh, but I'm an asshole and I'm stubborn, and I have over a month of vacation time to spend on this.
tommymac
11-02-2009, 01:02 AM
Yeh, but I'm an asshole and I'm stubborn, and I have over a month of vacation time to spend on this.
Nice, go to war with these bastards.
Tom
Hey dave, tell me you left a floater for them when you stopped by their shop?
Hey dave, tell me you left a floater for them when you stopped by their shop?
nah but i could do the flaming bag of doodoo gag later if ya want
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