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Originally Posted by The Chi
Bad examples. They didnt get away with that because they are women, they got away with it because they are celebrities.
As far as the women going on tirades, where is a good example? Any person I know who has acted unprofessionally like that was fired, regardless off sex.
As far as the other items, thats politics, and has nothing to do with sex. It could be a grieving father or mother that "assists" a politician in allowing a law to get passed. I cant recall specific cases and while the females do typically outweigh the males on that matter, I can think of a couple of cases where a grieving father was the one who got laws passed. Not because of sex but because of whatever crime was committed.
Definitions of callous on the Web:
emotionally hardened; "a callous indifference to suffering"; "cold-blooded and indurate to public opinion"
make insensitive or callous; deaden feelings or morals
callously - in a callous way; "he callously exploited their feelings"
callosity - unfeelingness: devoid of passion or feeling; hardheartedness
callousness - The quality of being callous; emotional hardheartedness or indifference
Why would you find that judging? Was it aimed at you? Does it strike some cord within you makes you think it was? Try not taking things personally. Nowhere did it say "I think Kel or someone she knows is a callous whore".
Your argument is invalid btw. If even one person is scarred or emotionally damaged from an abortion, its not a myth.
Now boys and girls, lets see it used in a sentence. Or several.
If someone doesnt at least feel something after having an abortion I would definitely call them callous. Whether they are scarred or not depends on the person, but having to end a life, whether its because of a flaw in mother or baby, it being life threatening to the mother or simply because its not something the parents can do, it is still a very hard and serious decision and if someone doesnt give that thought or think about it in the years to come, I would stand by by statement that they are callous. No matter how you look at it, its still the taking of a life whether its necessary or not.
As far as the callous whore statement, if you read what I was stating, it refers to those women are stupid as we already discussed. The ones who go out, make bad decisions, sleep with a guy, get pregnant and have an abortion because its the easier way of dealing with it because they were too stupid, lazy and yes CALLOUS to use protection which would have negated the need to abort in the first place.
I grew up with girls whose only method of BC was going to the abortion doctor and getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy when they could have avoided it. Public health clinics, free condoms, ANYTHING would have at least made steps toward preventing. In other words, they "callously" disregarded the fetuses life (whether the fetus has a right to life is a whole different argument) and they often disregard the feelings of those involved, often the father of the fetus as Trip loves to argue.
I know women today who have had them done for their necessary reasons.
(No persons reason will be exactly the same and what one person feels is necessary may not be something you agree with, but its not your decision on what is reasonable for another person, and trying to judge another or make that decision for them like these laws are trying to do is not yours or the govts right.)
The stupid irresponsible girls and women who used it as birth control never gave a thought to anything other than themselves, which lends weight to Trips argument about the guys not having a choice. The women who had to make the decision for something other than stupidity and selfishness never forget what they had to do or how it made them feel i.e. it was not made "callously".
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I'm not taking it personally nor did it strike a chord. But you weren't saying 'callous' (which I would have agreed with given your definitions), you were saying "callous whore" which implies a whole lot of judgment.
As a society, we can't say that you can do something, and then say "oh only for certain reasons." We either allow it or we don't. Nose jobs are for the most part stupid and unneccessary (as is a lot of plastic surgery), but people are allowed to get it and no one has any say in WHY they get them. In no way am I equating a nose job with an abortion, but if we allow something....we allow it. Simple as. We can't say "oh you can only get a nose job if you were punched by your boyfriend."
And as for the "myth" part. Of course it's a decision and is weighed by anyone who's ever done it. And of course they feel something. But there is this view put out there that every woman who has an abortion regrets it for the rest of her life and is never the same and....blah blah blah. It's just not like that for everyone or even half as many as they would have you believe.
For a very good portion it was a choice they made. The RIGHT choice for them. No regrets. No spending years wondering "what if". None of that. Just done and move on. Doesn't make them callous or a whore.