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Old 10-15-2009, 07:55 AM   #21
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The only time I can look under my mirror is when I'm crashing. See, I have low mirrors and I'm a tall guy, so no way that's happening.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:31 AM   #22
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There's been great advice in this thread...I learned a few things too


But the best thing said IMHO is




I use to hang off like a friggin monkey thinking I needed too, then I went up to shady valley and rode with Clay for a weekend, and learned a thing or 12.

After a few track days and being told comfort level was the key to getting faster, THEN work on body form as the speed increases, I was able to feel better about the form I had.

What does it matter if you LOOK the part, yet are getting passed by old farts on dual sports sitting straight up?
I totally understand what you're saying. I'm not the type to just "look the part" and in fact have had more than my fair share of giggles at people who do this. I've never been one to throw my knee out for the sake of it and only move around a bit when I feel like it or feel it would help. Really there is almost no need for *most* of my riding (on the street at least).

I think it's a comfort level that will come for me.

I'm working on the smooth first - fast later school of track day riding. I am very smooth and have trained myself to focus on the little things, slowly adding them together. Body positioning is the next logical step for me.

Unfortunately track days are also done for me until April (unless I can swing a trip to Jennings in January).

GREAT advice in this thread! Thanks everyone!
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:27 AM   #23
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Great thread...thanks for all of the ideas.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:56 AM   #24
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On a slightly off topic note, I saw something that I could use the other day, it was a small plastic gizmo that sticks on the edge of the gas tank to help you lock your knee in it. I've been searching for it and have yet to find it. Its not the pads with small spikes on them that dig into your leg, I tried those and didnt care for em, it sits on the side crease of the tank and just sticks out a bit giving a lip to lock your knee on
Eh......I would be worried about such a device breaking off at the worst possible time.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:17 PM   #25
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What Sean said FTW!

The best advice I got from a female control rider (one built like me) was tits to the tank!! But this only works for tall women, or like myself, women built like spider monkeys! My shorter friends dont have the reach of leg or arm and have to position differently. Find a CR built like yourself and ask her what she does.

I practice my form on the street too, just for fun, so that now, even when taking it easy on the street, I immediately fall into at least somewhat proper form for turns and such, just because its a comfort thing. It just takes practice. *hint* You can also do it going in a straight line to get a feel for it at speed...just saying.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:15 PM   #26
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Take a look at this photo... and before anyone makes a keyboard commando comment... look at the number on his number plate.

Case in point, you need to be comfortable, and develop your own style. Being a little crossed up gives you more ability to work the bars and recover from a moment than hanging off dramatically, although that also has its own benefits. The most important thing is to use a position that allows you to relax your arms, bend the elbow, etc.



Here is one of the other very fast guys from our local series. Drastically different positioning, similar speed.


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Old 11-03-2009, 09:17 PM   #27
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LOL....he's dragging his knee on grass, nice
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:29 PM   #28
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Take a look at this photo... and before anyone makes a keyboard commando comment... look at the number on his number plate.

Case in point, you need to be comfortable, and develop your own style. Being a little crossed up gives you more ability to work the bars and recover from a moment than hanging off dramatically, although that also has its own benefits. The most important thing is to use a position that allows you to relax your arms, bend the elbow, etc.

Here is one of the other very fast guys from our local series. Drastically different positioning, similar speed.
True.

There will always be exceptions. A few of the very fast guys I know prefer the more upright style in your first picture. Almost every one of them comes from an MX background.

Still, Eric's form is more "textbook" proper.

There is a huge difference in a fast guy with an upright (not crossed up) position and a newbie trying to look like Doohan.

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:44 PM   #29
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Well I might get a chance to work on some stuff this weekend.

Bike was put away for the winter but temps have risen and track days are being run this weekend.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:45 PM   #30
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Well I might get a chance to work on some stuff this weekend.

Bike was put away for the winter but temps have risen and track days are being run this weekend.
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