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Old 01-31-2011, 01:49 PM   #1
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Or dude could have just paid his fucking bill each month and nobody would be the wiser.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:59 PM   #2
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Would have to be a fairly large river to get any kind of power output and people would notice if he stuck a dam on it.
Depends how big the cave.... nobody would notice a dam inside a cave... cause it's inside a cave.

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Or dude could have just paid his fucking bill each month and nobody would be the wiser.
He was leaching off the grid, separate from his normal utilities... generally people tap into the water system to do this...
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He was leaching off the grid, separate from his normal utilities... generally people tap into the water system to do this...
Yeh but if he was using the normal grid, and paying his bill who would have cared? All dude has to say is that the lights and TVs stay on 24/7, pay his enourmous bill and rake in the $$$$ from selling some weed. The way it is, dude got caught because he was stealing electricity
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Seems like people only get caught when they get greedy.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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Yeh but if he was using the normal grid, and paying his bill who would have cared? All dude has to say is that the lights and TVs stay on 24/7, pay his enourmous bill and rake in the $$$$ from selling some weed. The way it is, dude got caught because he was stealing electricity
Lights and TV.... WAY beyond lights and TV... like, "I have my 100,000 gallon Olympic lap pool heated to 90º year round" sort of electric bill... Not the sort of shit you can easily explain away.
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Lights and TV.... WAY beyond lights and TV... like, "I have my 100,000 gallon Olympic lap pool heated to 90º year round" sort of electric bill... Not the sort of shit you can easily explain away.
Yeah if anything they would of caught on MUCH earlier because of the huge bill. Each of those lights is about 1000 watts.. Pretty easy to do the math from there..
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Yeah if anything they would of caught on MUCH earlier because of the huge bill. Each of those lights is about 1000 watts.. Pretty easy to do the math from there..
I've heard there are now LED grow lights, but I imagine that is solely for very small grow ops, like a "grow your own" type of thing. Anybody know if there is any truth to that? Granted, you'd still need temperature control units, which can easily cause a high utility bill.
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I've heard there are now LED grow lights, but I imagine that is solely for very small grow ops, like a "grow your own" type of thing. Anybody know if there is any truth to that? Granted, you'd still need temperature control units, which can easily cause a high utility bill.
With the LEDs you get the equivalent of a 600watt hps bulb with a 100watt LED basically. They really don't give off any heat so you save a lot of money on hvac as well. They are expensive, but they last like 10 years.. I've seen some mixed results with how they work..
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Depends how big the cave.... nobody would notice a dam inside a cave... cause it's inside a cave.
The amount of power you would need to be self sufficient would get noticed when you shut off the river heading out of the cave to get the shit in place and built. Considering how important a water source of that size would be, it would definitely not go unnoticed. This couldn't be done on some tiny little creek.
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