When I return to work, it may be to a shitstorm

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

O hell. People get used to using the same thing over and over for years. I feel your pain.

It's more than them just getting used to it. There are some web applications that simply don't work properly in IE9. Compatibility Mode isn't a guaranteed fix, either, but we'll somehow have to code for its use.

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Who cares.

Apparently you cared enough to post.

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

It's more than them just getting used to it. There are some web applications that simply don't work properly in IE9. Compatibility Mode isn't a guaranteed fix, either, but we'll somehow have to code for its use.



Apparently you cared enough to post.

It's the love that counts.


Yea it sucks when something new comes out and gives something else the middle finger. W7 has been pretty good to me so far on old stuff. The only thing I haven't been able to do is hook my xbox360 HD-DVD player to my PC and have it work with W7. Someone made a driver for WinXP, but W7 has no codes or something for HD-DVD. Sucks because there's a shit load of them out there and they look just as good or better than a bunch of Blurays that are out.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

It's the love that counts.


Yea it sucks when something new comes out and gives something else the middle finger. W7 has been pretty good to me so far on old stuff. The only thing I haven't been able to do is hook my xbox360 HD-DVD player to my PC and have it work with W7. Someone made a driver for WinXP, but W7 has no codes or something for HD-DVD. Sucks because there's a shit load of them out there and they look just as good or better than a bunch of Blurays that are out.

You could try getting it to work in the WinXP virtual machine, for Win7. It's a bitch for memory though. Works best if you've got Win7 64 bit and a shitload of memory, from what I'm told.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

You could try getting it to work in the WinXP virtual machine, for Win7. It's a bitch for memory though. Works best if you've got Win7 64 bit and a shitload of memory, from what I'm told.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

Tried. It doesnt work like a full copy of XP.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Tried. It doesnt work like a full copy of XP.

That sucks. My only other possible suggestion would be VMWare, but that's like killing a fly with 10 Kg of C4.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

It's more than them just getting used to it. There are some web applications that simply don't work properly in IE9. Compatibility Mode isn't a guaranteed fix, either, but we'll somehow have to code for its use.



Apparently you cared enough to post.

NO I mean who cares if it auto updates. What's the difference?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

NO I mean who cares if it auto updates. What's the difference?

Who? That would be anyone who:

1) ... doesn't want someone else deciding what gets installed on their computer.

2) ... has web based applications that will only function properly with a specific version of IE, or that won't function with a specific version of IE.

They'll be pushing IE9 to systems running Win7, without bothering to ask. We've found the performance of IE9 to be rather slow. In fact I've rolled back to IE8, on about 10 systems, because users thought that their whole systems were running slow as a result of it being installed.

We also know that two of our web applications, that are necessary for operation in the university, do not function in IE9. IE8 is as far as their compatibility goes, at this point. We've got people working on compatibility, for IE9, but you can't just pull the rug out from under your clients for the hell of it.

[Gas Man]

Well I get #1 but I was waiting for the IT dept style answer.

[Lamnidae]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Well I get #1 but I was waiting for the IT dept style answer.

Makes configuration management a pain --- you have a specific set of software you're supposed to run (your trusted baseline, etc).

Lots of places don't care/give a damn.... But quite a few do.

One of the reasons why we don't allow Chrome on our systems is due to the Auto-Update feature (though I use it on my personal PC's, I do like Chrome).



So, one thing in the article kinda "saves the day" for me

"[And] customers who have declined previous installations of IE8 or IE9 through Windows Update will not be automatically updated," Microsoft promised in a Thursday blog post.

Enterprises running WSUS (Windows Server Update Service), the most popular business patching and updating tool, or other patch management systems will not be affected.

"They're basically saying that if you set group policies through WSUS [to block automatic upgrades] that they're not going to override that," said Storms.

So those in an enterprise environment should be okay.... as long as they don't pull the same shit they did with (I think it was IE 7 - > IE 8) and wrap the software into some other patch.....

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Well I get #1 but I was waiting for the IT dept style answer.

I am in the IT department and I answered

Our purchasing system is buggered up by the additional security, that was added to IE9. Our HR system, that we use to do little things like report vacations and absences doesn't work with IE9, because it screws up the nested menus. The internet gateway that we use, to guide people to the appropriate servers for HR, email, course information, etc. doesn't display properly in IE9.

They added a bunch of overhead, in IE9, that fights it out with existing systems.

@Amblyopic - Unfortunately we don't run an update server. I worked in private industry for 12 years, prior to taking a position in the university. Over the time since two words have become the bane of my existence; "academic freedom."