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Old 08-12-2012, 02:45 PM   #21
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And when I was recently in Port Dover, ON, CA many of the locals stepped aside or side looked at me and my michigan boys. One fine group of ladies, immediately asked if we were all carrying guns.
Why would they do that? Was your posse all loc'd-out, wearing camo shorts, Metal Mulisha wife-beaters, and Tapout skullcaps?
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:28 AM   #22
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I'm with Capt on this.

Home... um... no!
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:32 AM   #23
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That's based on per capita statistics, not total number of population. Our prison system is also far more effective where recidivism rates are considered, which makes me wonder why our current Federal Government wants to go more in your direction.

*EDIT* Some statistics for you: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-.../10518-eng.htm
That's allot of reading for 06XX morning...
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #24
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That's allot of reading for 06XX morning...
Skip the text wall and jump straight down to the pretty pictures (specifically chart #4).
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:17 AM   #25
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This was posted in the other thread, but I thought it was relevant here to possibly give an idea as to that LEO's thoughts and viewpoint. He didn't write the following, but a LEO did and it will hopefully help others understand why said LEO didn't want to talk to the guys who approached him.


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This was posted in the other thread, but I thought it was relevant here to possibly give an idea as to that LEO's thoughts and viewpoint. He didn't write the following, but a LEO did and it will hopefully help others understand why said LEO didn't want to talk to the guys who approached him.


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Due to the differences in culture, his post is far less relevant here. Sure, you might have someone ask for directions and then pull a knife on you, but the ones with guns tend to not want to waste bullets on shooting anyone but each other. Civilian casualties involved are generally incidental. Almost exclusively, in fact, due to the shooters' inability to hit a target.
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Due to the differences in culture, his post is far less relevant here. Sure, you might have someone ask for directions and then pull a knife on you, but the ones with guns tend to not want to waste bullets on shooting anyone but each other. Civilian casualties involved are generally incidental. Almost exclusively, in fact, due to the shooters' inability to hit a target.
But the Kalamazoo cop doesn't know that. He only knows what he's seen and experienced. And if his experiences are anything like that of the author of the street robbery article, then you can see why he wished he was able to reach for a gun, weather he ever had to pull it or not.
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But the Kalamazoo cop doesn't know that. He only knows what he's seen and experienced. And if his experiences are anything like that of the author of the street robbery article, then you can see why he wished he was able to reach for a gun, weather he ever had to pull it or not.
And he seems to feel that his impressions of his own country should automatically be applicable when he's in a different country. Funny, but I don't make that assumption when I'm down there.
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And he seems to feel that his impressions of his own country should automatically be applicable when he's in a different country. Funny, but I don't make that assumption when I'm down there.
A thug is still a thug and his tactics are generally the same, regardless of the country in which he lives.
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A thug is still a thug and his tactics are generally the same, regardless of the country in which he lives.
Then it would seem that we have maybe half as many of them, per capita. I would posit that the ready availability of guns turns bully cowards into thugs.
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