What's your 2010 schedule shaping up to look like? - Page 2

Sean · 01-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

We have a few douchebags like that too. More often than not they got handed a CR spot because they are "someone". I've had to say something to get some to chill out. The owner of the org has asked more than one not to come back.

Pace is relative. What may seem to be "hauling-ass" in Nov/Int B/C/etc. may still be way off someone's "fast" pace.

Some people are better at "flipping the switch". I'm more of a dial guy. It takes me a few sessions to dial up to 100% after running at 40-80%.

BTW, I ran BT003's in my last race and at the last trackday: Loved them. Have you tried a set of the race compund yet?

Edit: sorry for the "egregious" use of "quotes."

It's "ok".

I think they pick the really fast guys with a level head for CR and just let them at it. I know a couple of the guys and they're good, safe riders...but it seems to me the whole point of groups is to reduce the speed differential. I've ridden A group so I have a feel for what the pace there is...and I rode C while I was filming my then-GF and they were bombing past us like we were standing still. I seem to be the only one who has issues with it so I'll just STFU.

I ditched the 003s quick and put on a set of D209 GP-As. They're 190s, which I probably won't do again, but have grip for days. I'm slow as fluck so I've still got them on there but I'll probably run a 180 something for the season opener in March. The GP-As kick ass though! I'd run them again in an second if I had a 5.5" rim, but as it is the profile is a bit flat.

Here's one incident I had. That's a Graves R1, he probably had 60hp on me. I'd bet he came flying down the straight before and was committed before he could react. Their track exit policy leaves, uh, something to be desired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48nI_fT4YUk

OreoGaborio · 01-05-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Funny, the beginner / intermediate control riders just bomb around in B and C at fast A group pace. I bet they don't have issues getting back up to race pace. I've had them almost take me out a couple of times and exchanged words.

Yup.... Some control riders want to go out there & show the newbies how badass they are where as others, like myself, actually want to help people with their riding. We weed out the jokers that are there for thrills & boosting their egos. That's the difference between control riders at a mickey mouse organization and ones at a reputable one.

I go from doing 1:18-1:20 a lap during a race weekend to LITERALLY as slow as 2 minutes a lap or more working with the beginner group at a track day. Imagine riding 50-60% and trying to show someone proper technique... it's a lot harder than it sounds!

tommymac · 01-05-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

Yup.... Some control riders want to go out there & show the newbies how badass they are where as others, like myself, actually want to help people with their riding. We weed out the jokers that are there for thrills & boosting their egos. That's the difference between control riders at a mickey mouse organization and ones at a reputable one.

I go from doing 1:18-1:20 a lap during a race weekend to LITERALLY as slow as 2 minutes a lap or more working with the beginner group.

I liked that at the day I did with absolute this past year. It was my first and only day and at first wa srusty as hell but was all over the place. A coach got infront of me and had me follow him. helped me get back online and saw a few different things. We spoke for a good 20 minutes after the session on a few things and it was very helpful.

he buzzed me later in the day and gave a thumbs up so I thought that was cool that he remembered or was keeping an eye on me.

At another track day a few yrs back A coach woul dfollow me then wave me ahead and we did that for several laps. I went into the pits and asked how I was doing and got the looking good and that was that. I couldnt be doing that good since i was a midpack beginner level rider at the time

OreoGaborio · 12-31-2009, 06:11 PM

Yeah, Mike, sometimes it can be really tough switching rolls.

I can flip the switch from Racer to Instructor quickly and easily, but it can be very hard sometimes to go the other way around & go from Instructor to Racer.

In fact I had some big issues with that in '08 when I had some race weekends right after a 2 day track day event and it was super hard to get into that race mentality. I was WAY off pace, like 4-5 seconds a lap! But luckily, Tony, the guy that runs the show, listens to me and the other instructors and we can influence the schedule a little bit. So he did his best in '09 and '10 to adjust it in that way that put our track days right AFTER our race weekends instead of just before... And my lap times this past season responded.

Bringing a 2nd bike to instruct on is a great idea to help with that... especially if it's a very different kind of bike and has a very different feel than your race bike... I did that a couple of times and I think it definitely helps you turn on that racer mentality a little quicker when you throw your leg over the race bike.

HurricaneHeather · 12-31-2009, 06:18 PM

I will just be doing tech at Texas Mile March 26-28 and October 23-24....maybe I'll get to go to the track at some point this year...maybe.

racedoll · 12-31-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

I still have a few Vacation days left in my pocket if you can make a good argument as to why I should hit up Mid O this year though

I'm in Ohio, do you need any better reason than that? I'd even give you a place to stay since I'm just over an hour away.

OreoGaborio · 12-31-2009, 07:40 PM

Well helllllO Hiiiiiiiiii O

racedoll · 12-31-2009, 09:24 PM

Seriously, you are welcome to stay here. You and my hubby can chat racing stuff as he is an ex-racer.

tommymac · 01-01-2010, 01:52 AM

I will proly do afew days aT NJMP, but IU also want to get down to summit point, 2 days at vir south annd a weekend at beaver run or nelson ledges. I also like loudon so would try to get up there for a day or 2.

racedoll · 01-01-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tommymac

I will proly do afew days aT NJMP, but IU also want to get down to summit point, 2 days at vir south annd a weekend at beaver run or nelson ledges. I also like loudon so would try to get up there for a day or 2.

Let me know if you do Beaver Run or Nelson's. I'd be up for doing either. I know Erik would love to go to Beaver Run again.

12-31-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
OreoGaborio Tony's Crack Pusher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Topsfield MA Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race) Posts: 428	Yeah, Mike, sometimes it can be really tough switching rolls. I can flip the switch from Racer to Instructor quickly and easily, but it can be very hard sometimes to go the other way around & go from Instructor to Racer. In fact I had some big issues with that in '08 when I had some race weekends right after a 2 day track day event and it was super hard to get into that race mentality. I was WAY off pace, like 4-5 seconds a lap! But luckily, Tony, the guy that runs the show, listens to me and the other instructors and we can influence the schedule a little bit. So he did his best in '09 and '10 to adjust it in that way that put our track days right AFTER our race weekends instead of just before... And my lap times this past season responded. Bringing a 2nd bike to instruct on is a great idea to help with that... especially if it's a very different kind of bike and has a very different feel than your race bike... I did that a couple of times and I think it definitely helps you turn on that racer mentality a little quicker when you throw your leg over the race bike. __________________ -Pete LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists \| Phoenix Graphics \| Woodcraft \| Moon Performance \| RJ's Motorsport \| Motorcycles of Manchester \| MTAG-Pirelli The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) \| '06 SV650 (race) Last edited by OreoGaborio; 12-31-2009 at 06:17 PM..

12-31-2009, 07:40 PM	#7
OreoGaborio Tony's Crack Pusher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Topsfield MA Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race) Posts: 428	Well helllllO Hiiiiiiiiii O __________________ -Pete LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists \| Phoenix Graphics \| Woodcraft \| Moon Performance \| RJ's Motorsport \| Motorcycles of Manchester \| MTAG-Pirelli The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) \| '06 SV650 (race) Last edited by OreoGaborio; 12-31-2009 at 07:45 PM..

12-31-2009, 06:18 PM	#5
HurricaneHeather AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Moto: '98 Honda Fireblade Posts: 3,696	I will just be doing tech at Texas Mile March 26-28 and October 23-24....maybe I'll get to go to the track at some point this year...maybe.

12-31-2009, 09:24 PM	#8
racedoll AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: '04 Kawasaki ZX6RR Posts: 3,392	Seriously, you are welcome to stay here. You and my hubby can chat racing stuff as he is an ex-racer.

01-01-2010, 01:52 AM	#9
tommymac Moto GP Star Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,022	I will proly do afew days aT NJMP, but IU also want to get down to summit point, 2 days at vir south annd a weekend at beaver run or nelson ledges. I also like loudon so would try to get up there for a day or 2.